Public Accounts committee  Yes, you may. One came from the document that Assistant Commissioner Gork had signed by Chief Superintendent Doug Lang, and it cited various reasons. That was attached in the letter. I'm listening now to the head of the investigation, Inspector Paul Roy, who tells us that he was not removed.

Public Accounts committee  This is what Inspector Roy is saying: he was not removed from the investigation.

Public Accounts committee  Well, it is, particularly since people cannot get an answer out straight. Mr. Chair, may I please speak?

Public Accounts committee  Thank you. On February 21, when I was asked why I thought.... This was two years ago. I didn't have the document in front of me. I remember Doug Lang telling me that he was ODS, off-duty sick; he was mentioning the doctor. I thought that, under stress, he had gone home. Then the document comes in from Assistant Commission Gork, who thinks that he has been removed for various reasons.

Public Accounts committee  I didn't tell you he was removed for health reasons. I told you I—

Public Accounts committee  They asked me about.... This is very important. Your words can bury somebody, so let's be very careful here, sir.

Public Accounts committee  They asked me why I thought he was removed. I thought it had to do with health reasons. I read you the e-mails in my opening statement, okay? I read you the e-mails.

Public Accounts committee  If I were back in my office, I possibly could get a response to that.

Public Accounts committee  Could I have some more clarity around that, please? You're explaining that we've had people come in as lunch-box teachers, or we've had classes set up in-house. There are many different ways the RCMP allows its members to take French-language training.

Public Accounts committee  For certain positions in the RCMP, we have language profiles, and prospective candidates must meet whatever the language profiles are. The RCMP will accommodate as far as possible to allow the candidate—

Public Accounts committee  The teacher you're speaking of, Madam Rundle, has had tens, if not hundreds, of RCMP members and public servants throughout the government. We have to go down and pass public service oral and written exams, as does anybody else. She's an extraordinary teacher, and for anybody to come in and say that there was cheating there, I absolutely reject that.

Public Accounts committee  If I could recall, I would have sent that over to the official languages branch and possibly to the central region to look at those allegations. They should have been looked into.

Public Accounts committee  Yes.

Public Accounts committee  I recall quite vividly the afternoon that Assistant Commissioner Rogerson came into my office. I was the chief superintendent at the time, in charge of officer staffing. He came in, and I could see that he was quite agitated. He's a very tall man, so it was difficult for me to look straight up and speak to him.

Public Accounts committee  I, Barbara George, do swear that the evidence I shall give on this examination shall be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help me God.