Veterans Affairs committee  Definitely. For the new veterans, we have to have early intervention and do it right away. We have to recognize it, etc. Unfortunately--and this is an observation, not a criticism--the old veterans suffered a lot. I had a few who suffered, and that was terrible, but I think we're doing better with that.

Veterans Affairs committee  From what I saw here in the pre-deployment and our medical support to the Canadian Forces operation, I didn't see any. Now, I'm not in there working, so I can't answer more specifically. In the RCMP the health team, on a regular basis, once yearly, visited our members everywhere.

Veterans Affairs committee  Yes, and as you know, the psychologist has the responsibility of testing. I have no problem working with psychologists. They're part of my life and I work with them. They're the specialists, but we doctors do the interpretation. And yes, there are tests to screen out serious illness.

Veterans Affairs committee  Yes.

Veterans Affairs committee  Yes. Definitely.

Veterans Affairs committee  I'm not saying we're 100%, but we do have standards that tell us the risk assessment. That's why the tests are not enough. It's an assessment by a specialized psychologist. We assess and we make a decision, and sometimes we're wrong and sometimes we're right. As you know, decisions in Canada can always be appealed.

Veterans Affairs committee  There's an association of psychologists, but if you're talking about an official association between force members, the RCMP, or the other police forces, I haven't seen any.

Veterans Affairs committee  Yes.

Veterans Affairs committee  There is energy. In my job on the Quebec compensation board we do have education. I'm like a judge there and I listen to what his doctor says and the force, the Sûreté du Québec.... We have an educational training of about two years. But this is unofficial. I haven't seen any special police or military post-traumatic stress disorder education program specifically.

Veterans Affairs committee  Definitely. The last committee I attended was with the U.K., Australian, and U.S. military, and it was about medical issues from immunization. What we were looking at was management of the risk of a deployed member or an officer in all these countries: what kind of immunization did we offer him, what kind of medical support with regard to psychological, physical, etc.

Veterans Affairs committee  In the force—and I'm talking about my numbers when I left the force—it was 2%. Funnily enough, at the CSST, the Quebec compensation board, which is the only provincial compensation board that has entitlement for psychological illness, it's 2% of our workload. We have 300,000 cases a year, but 2% are psychological.

Veterans Affairs committee  Definitely before. There's all this community health. You could have advertisements on TV every night to stop smoking, but it's when I get my patient in front of me and I give him the rules. So I think individual screening.... Of course, with military and police positions, we know the risk.

Veterans Affairs committee  That's a good question. I can speak in regard to the RCMP. Interestingly enough, I was at the policy centre, and I tried for some liaison with the military--they opened their clinic recently--but, boy, I couldn't. I mean, the RCMP in the book says we are allowed to go there, but it was so complicated.

Veterans Affairs committee  Both.

Veterans Affairs committee  We should have regular discussions with Veterans Affairs. I don't know about the military, but unfortunately at the RCMP we had difficulty. Of course, the RCMP was a small player, at 17,000 members; the military was at 60,000. Sometimes we'd wonder, why did they refuse that? But funnily enough, they were doctors from Veterans Affairs.