Agriculture committee  I don't want to speak for or against, but in our case, in chicken, we have our industry partners onside. I want to emphasize that. We don't have our further processors saying don't do this. They are onside. They know the solution to our problem is an article 28.

Agriculture committee  We need the will.

Agriculture committee  Let me segregate that into two parts. There are the imports of finished products coming in from the States, mostly, at this point. They're coming in as finished non-ICL products. There's also a large base of Canadian manufacturers of non-ICL products. Because these Canadian manufacturers conform to a 13% rule, which is a ludicrous part of the aspect of this argument, they're entitled to receive special supplementary imports to manufacture those products, regardless of how much competition exists.

Agriculture committee  In regard to your question about special safeguards, we'd like to see it operational also. But in regard to the 13% rule, we require an article 28. As far as the import level goes, if you look on page 5 of our presentation, you'll see that the level of imports right now of these non-ICL products have not escalated to the point that the special supplementals have.

Agriculture committee  Thank you very much. In public school my teacher told me that repetition is a good way of teaching, so I'm going to repeat some things that Monsieur Dufresne has said today, and hopefully some of it will stick. My name is Urs Kressibucher. I'm second vice-chairman of Chicken Farmers of Canada.