Citizenship and Immigration committee  No, because the proposed amendment says that the minister “may” consider. No one is saying the minister has to grant—

Citizenship and Immigration committee  But she “may” consider it.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Usually if people are underground for a long period of time, it happens that a second application might be made, because circumstances are changed.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  A pre-removal risk assessment has a 3% success rate and does not even reconsider what was seen at the refugee hearing--

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Yes.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  The Federal Court--

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Yes. I do those cases, and I know how many hours they take and how much it would cost, and they're basically not an appeal.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  No other country in the world that has a respectable refugee determination system does not have an appeal on the merits--

Citizenship and Immigration committee  The judicial review is not an appeal.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Yes.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Our Parliament passed the RAD. We agreed to a refugee appeal division in Parliament in 2001, and we do not have an appeal.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Well, we had a program that worked very well. It was very easy to operate. It was an administrative review program.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  An anonymous, third-party application is made by the applicant—the third party fills out the application and just doesn't give the address. Basically, if that is approved—because the person qualifies—then the person comes forward, and it's all checked out, and they're landed.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  On the point, which Ms. Chow made as well, about the changes proposed with the amendment in Bill C-50, as my friend Mr. Bellissimo mentioned, the Federal Court of Appeal found that our current act only complies with international human rights conventions with regard to the right of family members to be together because of that humanitarian and compassionate application program; that's the only way out.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Yes.