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Transport committee  I can answer that. The panel, which is supported by a risk assessment done by the department, concluded that our current standard of having 10,000 tonnes of response capacity throughout Canada was inadequate based on the risk, and is recommending that we go to the area response plans.

February 11th, 2014Committee meeting

Tim Meisner

Transport committee  Yes, it's about 400.

February 11th, 2014Committee meeting

Tim Meisner

Transport committee  I think you had another question, but I can't remember what it was.

February 11th, 2014Committee meeting

Tim Meisner

Transport committee  The two regimes are different. When we talk about world class, we're just talking about oil, such as oil handling, bitumen, oil-going ships. The one that we are proposing today for the Marine Liability Act is very narrow. It's just chemicals or hazardous and noxious substances and just the liability aspect.

February 11th, 2014Committee meeting

Tim Meisner

Transport committee  I believe never. That's internationally.

February 11th, 2014Committee meeting

Tim Meisner

Transport committee  This is not oil. This is hazardous and noxious substances.

February 11th, 2014Committee meeting

Tim Meisner

Transport committee  Tankers, through the Canada Shipping Act, are required to be inspected on their first visit to Canada and annually thereafter. There is a regime in place. In the announcement we made last March, we increased the number of inspectors to be able to make sure that this adheres to our regulations.

February 11th, 2014Committee meeting

Tim Meisner

Transport committee  I guess it's all in the eyes of the beholder whether it's—

February 11th, 2014Committee meeting

Tim Meisner

Transport committee  No. There's no regime in place for HNS. This is a first step.

February 11th, 2014Committee meeting

Tim Meisner

Transport committee  It was based on international discussion and....

February 11th, 2014Committee meeting

Tim Meisner

Transport committee  Well, the convention hasn't come into force yet.

February 11th, 2014Committee meeting

Tim Meisner

Transport committee  I have to clarify one point. You mentioned the limit of liability being $400 million. The limit of liability would be the $185 million, which would be the insurance that the shippers are prepared to carry. Also, you mentioned the tanker safety expert panel's report, which, I believe, focused basically on preparedness and prevention recommendations.

February 11th, 2014Committee meeting

Tim Meisner

Transport committee  Well, as I said, the expert panel made a recommendation specifically that there shouldn't be limits of liability, and how to do it, and we're examining that recommendation as it pertains to oil. This pertains to chemicals and hazardous and noxious substances, so their recommendation really wasn't pertaining to this.

February 11th, 2014Committee meeting

Tim Meisner

Transport committee  I don't think you're premature, because I think what you're giving Canadians access to under this bill is $400 million should an incident happen. That's $400 million which they don't have access to today.

February 11th, 2014Committee meeting

Tim Meisner

Transport committee  Just to be clear, when we're talking about a world-class tanker safety system, it's pertaining to the transport of oil by ships. We have developed a framework to define what a world-class system would be, and that framework consists of three components. The first pillar is prevention measures, doing everything we can to possibly prevent the spill from happening in the first place.

February 11th, 2014Committee meeting

Tim Meisner