Environment committee  I think the difficulty has always been, and still is, to track back to who it was who introduced a particular species into the water. I think the answer is no, but there have been many individual cases where ships were found to have brought some sort of species with them that the

Environment committee  Yes, I'm familiar with it in the sense that I've read it.

Environment committee  No, but when they're setting the fines, they can take those matters into account, and the fines would be--

Environment committee  I don't think there is any legislation like this that does that.

Environment committee  I'm familiar with the phrase.

Environment committee  Well, yes.

Environment committee  There are various fund levels. You go first to the ship that has a certificate of financial responsibility. It's backed by an international P and I club or an international insurance company. After that fund is exhausted, you go to the ship-source oil pollution fund, which is Can

Environment committee  You don't need to, because you have these funds available, and they go up to $290 million. It's a tremendous amount of money.

Environment committee  That's Bill C-7.

Environment committee  All Bill C-7 does is implement the international bunker convention. It implements the supplementary fund protocol and then modernizes some of the other aspects of the MLA in terms of the language of the ship-source oil pollution fund.

Environment committee  First of all, I will say I am not a criminal lawyer; I am a maritime lawyer, so I don't deal with criminal courts. The Sault Ste. Marie case you speak of is certainly a very well-known case that I remember from my law school days. But we're talking about something different here

Environment committee  I'm not saying there are minimal penalties. I'm saying they are quite severe penalties in the bill.

Environment committee  As for what has to be done to correct the bill, certainly there's Transport, and they are more concerned with the marine aspects. They are certainly very familiar with the marine legislation dealing with pollution. My guess is that if they become involved, they will be able to ad

Environment committee  I would think they'd be able to address some of these concerns.

Environment committee  It's possible. That's what we have to do, and laws are frequently not always consistent. It doesn't make it easy, but we can certainly do it. I don't want to suggest that Justice Canada hasn't done its job, or that the environment ministry hasn't done its job. These are difficult