Government Operations committee  I understand he testified to that. That's not what I told him. By the time he got to my office on April 9, the press were already reporting that she was resigning from cabinet. Mr. Snowdy asked me about that, and I told him all I could tell him was that I thought the Prime Minister was at the Vimy memorial that morning, so nothing was going to happen before that memorial was done.

Government Operations committee  I didn't discuss them with Mr. Snowdy at that point, but in conversations with Mr. Snowdy, we did talk about her difficulties in the week leading up to April 9, that I just explained: the person from her office writing letters under a pseudonym, or anonymously, or whatever was done; the problems with her Elections Canada filing; and then obviously the mortgage issue and the way that, frankly, the Liberal Party jumped on that, quite likely inappropriately.

Government Operations committee  That was the Monday before he testified. He and his lawyer, Mr. Groot, attended at my office.

Government Operations committee  I think it was more for Mr. Groot's benefit. He wanted the benefit of my understanding of the way committees work, and so I answered Mr. Groot's questions. And then Mr. Snowdy, of course, had some new information for me at that meeting.

Government Operations committee  Yes. In the context of our call, we reviewed those allegations, yes.

Government Operations committee  I don't believe he was coming to me to learn any information from me. I was getting information from him.

Government Operations committee  I wanted to learn all the facts that surrounded anything that might impact upon Ms. Guergis, yes.

Government Operations committee  I don't believe I gave him that timeframe. He was asking questions to the effect of why certain things had not been done about demoting her, etc., earlier. I certainly was not in a position to answer those questions. That's not a decision the legal counsel of my client would presume to make.

Government Operations committee  So I simply couldn't answer him on any suggestions or any questions he had in that vein.

Government Operations committee  I think it calls into question her statements. But again, I don't want to get into who's lying, or making a subjective decision--

Government Operations committee  Yes.

Government Operations committee  Yes.

Government Operations committee  Yes. That's the testimony I mentioned earlier.

Government Operations committee  Yes. I reviewed that.

Government Operations committee  It's definitely Ms. Dawson's, because she had the benefit of seeing the letter. Mr. Snowdy was going off a rendition that had been provided to him by another.