Official Languages committee  We base ourselves on the census information that we have. In Dawson, people at the Centre tell us that there are 125 Francophones, and we believe them. We cannot rely on Statistics Canada or--

Official Languages committee  That's exactly the way they did it in Northern Ontario and New Brunswick, and we do the same thing. We get into the car and ask how many of them there are and how many women are pregnant.

Official Languages committee  No, it's not challenged by the federal government, but it is challenged in the courts by the Yukon government. According to them, Statistics Canada holds the truth: there are no Francophones in Dawson and there are 190 rights holders in Whitehorse; no more than that. The total for the Yukon is 190.

Official Languages committee  And there are 125 people in Dawson.

Official Languages committee  That's right.

Official Languages committee  If you don't mind, Mr. Godin, I would like to make the point that Dawson was founded by a Francophone. During the gold rush, there were a lot of Francophones. By 1950, there weren't any left; the rate of assimilation in the Yukon was 100%. Since 1984, we have started counting them again.

Official Languages committee  Section 23 deals specifically with remedies. There are a lot of remedies needed here, because the assimilation rate is 100%.

Official Languages committee  I have no idea.

Official Languages committee  The Ministry of Education does not have separate accounting.

Official Languages committee  No, the Ministry of Education provides services to the school directly. So, everything is calculated by the Ministry of Education and the services are provided directly to the schools.

Official Languages committee  There is no financial incentive, but we believe in this. We have many different reasons to want to increase our numbers.

Official Languages committee  In small schools like ours, it's complicated. At the high school level, for example, it works on the basis of groups of 20 students. Therefore, if that number is not achieved at certain levels, it gets complicated.

Official Languages committee  It's the Service d'orientation et de formation des adultes.

Official Languages committee  And the AFY.

Official Languages committee  As I said earlier, it's the Government of Canada.