Bill C-11 committee  That's not something that—

Bill C-11 committee  Let me start with a historical perspective. The way it used to work was that record labels would bring us disks, and we would store a number of disks in libraries. Copies of those disks would go into our studios and into our broadcast booths. Disks became CDs and were delivered t

Bill C-11 committee  Absolutely, and I'm glad you did ask that question, because 2009 was a very long time ago. Yes, in 2009 the radio industry in Canada was a very healthy one, but I can tell you it's not nearly as healthy today. Since about last June, our business has been down upwards of 15% in al

Bill C-11 committee  Things have changed.

Bill C-11 committee  My first response will deal with the initial part of your question. That was related to the provision of music that people want to hear. If we're not playing the kind of music that people want to hear on radio, they're going to go and find it somewhere else. In effect, what is a

Bill C-11 committee  I'm suggesting that the $21 million is an inappropriate fee for us to be charged because it's a duplicate fee.

Bill C-11 committee  Where is it going to be recovered? That's not a question for me to answer.

Bill C-11 committee  That's correct.

Bill C-11 committee  That's correct.

Bill C-11 committee  The other fee is a duplicate fee that we're charged to make the mechanical copy.

Bill C-11 committee  I believe it's been in existence for about five years.

Bill C-11 committee  I'm not certain, but that's something I can get back to you on. I know it has continued to grow.

Bill C-11 committee  I think the best answer to that question is that radio stations are an ever-changing, ever-evolving business. We may be in a soft AC format today, tomorrow we may become a hot AC station, and a year from now we could be a classic hits station.

Bill C-11 committee  While radio has equally been affected by technological change, as we will see, some things in the radio world have not. Local broadcasters continue to be an integral part of their communities by employing local people, contributing to local regions, creating local content, and in