Status of Women committee  So if concurrent jurisdiction is going to be honoured in legislation, what would it look like?

Status of Women committee  To answer Ms. Ambler's question in terms of where the pushback is coming from, it's that people feel they weren't listened to.

Status of Women committee  Obviously Wendy Grant-John talked to a lot of people—

Status of Women committee  —and came up with a report that is....

Status of Women committee  Which is exactly what the government is doing.

Status of Women committee  At the time, the government was cautioned not to cherry-pick her report, that it had to do all of it.

Status of Women committee  Tell me what a protection order would mean in your first nation.

Status of Women committee  So without access to justice, this is all....

Status of Women committee  You already have that laid out, but in many—

Status of Women committee  Merci. Thank you both for coming, because it's a tough issue. I think what you're hearing from the other side, and I quote, is, “We believe it will help.” I think what we're hearing from you is that you're not so sure it's going to help in the same way that Wendy Grant-John said that a legislative tool on its own won't work, unless there are the non-legislative supports in place.

Status of Women committee  So for Bill S-2 as a product...what we're hearing is that it doesn't reflect what was heard, in that there have been a lot of concerns like yours expressed. I think the issue Councillor Jack put forward, the issue of what it is actually like in a remote community without access to a court, with maybe a protection order, where women still have to flee because they're not feeling safe or they don't have access to counselling...that this is not the way forward.

Status of Women committee  Could you just explain again what concurrent jurisdiction means? Will Bill S-2 apply at Tsawwassen First Nation?

Status of Women committee  Because you already have—

Status of Women committee  Of your...?

Status of Women committee  Through section 35?