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Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Thank you. What I can tell you is that, as somebody who follows Human Rights Watch on Twitter and knows a number of the people, particularly in their New York offices, who work on this file, Southeast Asia and Indonesia in particular, my account, frankly, does not diverge from theirs.

November 27th, 2012Committee meeting

Irshad Manji

November 27th, 2012Committee meeting

Irshad Manji

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Right. Thank you for clarifying the intention of the question. On those human rights activists, from journalists to members of non-governmental organizations to lawyers, the whole coalition that Human Rights Watch represents, when we have engaged, when my team and I have engaged, representatives of that coalition in places like Jakarta, the capital, or Yogyakarta, which is the city in which the worst attack on us happened, to a person—to a person—they all say to us that they find themselves in a catch-22.

November 27th, 2012Committee meeting

Irshad Manji

November 27th, 2012Committee meeting

Irshad Manji

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  You'll be targeted the next day. But if you don't speak up, then of course nothing changes. What they're trying to say, and again, as we prodded them further about clarity of their message, each and every one pointed out that the only option they can now foresee to make serious change on the ground in Indonesia is to have diplomats and political leaders who are allied with the Indonesian government, supporting the government, to challenge, to nudge and to prod them to invite the special rapporteur in.

November 27th, 2012Committee meeting

Irshad Manji

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  It's a great question: no difficulty getting into the country, some difficulty getting out of the country.

November 27th, 2012Committee meeting

Irshad Manji

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Well, I'm sure a number of them would have personally assisted my expulsion from the country, but I don't think it was an accident that my Canadian passport suddenly went missing immediately after the melee of the attack. I do know that the Canadian embassy in Jakarta did what it called its very best to help me get out of the country.

November 27th, 2012Committee meeting

Irshad Manji

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Okay, but I just quickly want to say again, though, that I think our own people in the diplomatic corps have to be more alert and more proactive on this front.

November 27th, 2012Committee meeting

Irshad Manji

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Well, I spelled it as well, yes.

November 27th, 2012Committee meeting

Irshad Manji

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Thank you, sir. I don't think we can correct—if that's the word to use—the approach that mainstream journalists will take, because they themselves are very harried and very hurried these days, and, frankly, journalism becomes lazy under those conditions. But what I can tell you is that the good news lies in digital media.

November 27th, 2012Committee meeting

Irshad Manji

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Merci bien. Thank you very much, everyone, and good afternoon. I am very proud to be here today. That will be the extent of my French today. I hope, therefore, the translators will know that I'll be speaking slowly enough to make it sensible to them as much as to you. I'm truly honoured to be back on my old stomping ground.

November 27th, 2012Committee meeting

Irshad Manji