Public Accounts committee  Okay.

Public Accounts committee  Yes, that's fine. Thank you.

Public Accounts committee  The information that I can get, I will provide.

Public Accounts committee  As soon as we leave this room, I will contact the chair of the human resources committee and ask the question, and then we'll see.

Public Accounts committee  I'm a member of the board and I'm not aware of anyone who was recommended who was refused.

Public Accounts committee  I can ask.

Public Accounts committee  No, you misunderstand me. I've been a member of the board since April 5, 2012. I am not involved in the nomination process. It's the human resources committee that would be involved. Therefore, I'm not aware of anyone who has been recommended who has been refused. That's all I can say.

Public Accounts committee  Yes. I need a time period. The organization has existed for a long time, and most of the current board members were not there—

Public Accounts committee  I need a period of time. Thank you.

Public Accounts committee  I do not know the answer because it hasn't come up before. I can ask as soon as I leave the room. I can let you know right after that.

Public Accounts committee  I think there are two. One issue is relations with our aboriginal peoples and first nations. That's a really significant and fundamental problem that's not going away. Aboriginal peoples and first nations often don't like to cast the question in terms of race relations. They see it more in terms of relations among peoples, but the non-resolution of that issue has a significant impact on race relations as well.

Public Accounts committee  Our portfolio is now divided in two. Half of it we can't touch, except to transfer some of the interest from that side of the partition to the other side. On the latter side of the partition, we can withdraw the funds for operations. The fund is partitioned, and some of it we are not allowed to touch.

Public Accounts committee  I can't really speak to that. I can only speak to the process. I can't speak to the outcomes.

Public Accounts committee  We have reviewed the complete series of questionnaires we were using. We have looked at what other organizations and crown corporations have done in terms of self-evaluation. The general conclusion is that one has to ask a series of important, significant and meaningful questions, but one shouldn't ask too many of them.

Public Accounts committee  We have engaged in partnerships with others. Our most recent research was an attitude survey with respect to how various groups in our society are perceived. That was carried out by Jack Jedwab and the Canadian Ethnic Studies Association. We have those results, and we released a number of them at our award of excellence symposium and dinner.