Industry committee  Yes. Good morning.

Industry committee  Yes, we do believe we can make significant differences by doing that. Over the years we've looked at one of the questions asked about costs. Obviously, the less dense the population, the higher the cost to provide. In places where the densities are generally over four households per square kilometre, you're absolutely talking about situations where fixed wireless would be appropriate.

Industry committee  Absolutely, because obviously, the faster the speeds you're offering and the more data that's going through, the bigger the backhaul and backbone you need behind it in order to achieve that.

Industry committee  Forgive me, Mr. Chair, could I answer part of that question?

Industry committee  I think you raised a very important point there that may have been missed. You spoke about the 600 and 700 harmonization versus some of the higher level spectrums. It is incredibly important at the 600, 700, and 800 level that it be harmonized because of the cross-border potential for interference.

Industry committee  Yes, we were highly concerned about that. A couple of years back, there was a suggestion that the urban portion of it, which was very liberally defined, would be taken back and converted into mobile. At that precise moment, I can tell you that was a heart-stopping moment for our company that day because it represented 62% of our fixed wireless potentially being shut off.

Industry committee  There are some great examples from various ridings represented around this table. One that always springs to mind is Beach Corner near Edmonton. Calgary is another example, and the Toronto licence is a great example. When you look at a Calgary licence, for example, you'll see that it goes all the way to the B.C. border.

Industry committee  Such as Jasper, Olds, etc.

Industry committee  Exactly.

Industry committee  We looked at it a number of years ago and tried to make some suggestions about how you could look at basically the 12 largest cities in Canada and carve those licences a little differently than they are today to take out a lot of the green space. Quebec City falls into that, and Ottawa also falls into that category.

Industry committee  Exactly. That's why I alluded to Milton, which is one of my favourite little problem areas that we've been trying to deal with.

Industry committee  They are literally right at the end of the runway of Pearson International Airport. They're up on top of the escarpment. They can see the big city lights and have some of the worst service in the country, because they're in that Toronto licence and there is just no way of serving them.

Industry committee  And are not interested in low density.

Industry committee  That would be consistent with our experience too. Likewise we have approached various larger carriers, trying to get some of those doughnuts, shall we say, and there generally isn't a willingness to do so. Their argument is always that we need it for the transportation corridors.

Industry committee  You could have sat in our network meetings in terms of how you've done a great job of summarizing it. The answer from our perspective is investment in the backbone element of it, which is extraordinarily important and why we have been so enthusiastic about the connect to innovate program.