Health committee  Unfortunately, a lot of times it does depend on the person. There are incentives that you can provide. Some people, employers, spouses, friends, provide incentives. Incentives help motivate people to start, but again, it really comes down to the literacy. You have to learn what you need to do.

Health committee  I also think we need to get people before they get to the hospital, and that's where a lot of the knowledge comes in. It has to be about learning how to make healthy decisions. That's purely education. How do we get that to people? That's hard, because—

Health committee  Well, I've seen a few things that work. One obviously is youth. We have them in our grasp at school, so that's the one place where we can get them and teach them. Mandating the use of that so it could be part of their lifestyle could potentially happen through school. We do most of our work south of the border.

Health committee  Thank you as well for letting me be here today to present to you guys. Similar to some of the other witnesses here, I have a unique combination of a passion for software and technology and a passion to help people and make them healthier. I started a software company 16 years ago, which was pretty close to the infancy of the Internet.