Natural Resources committee  No, those jobs are strictly at the refinery.

Natural Resources committee  We know up to a point. First, the product leaves Petro-Canada and travels to Parachem's petrochemical plant. We're talking about a hundred or so jobs. It also goes to CEPSA. So that's 150 jobs. Neither of those includes the subcontractors. Next, various plants take it back. There's a small facility on the former Shell site, with a hundred jobs or so.

Natural Resources committee  Definitely. As I said, if the Petro-Canada refinery were to close and if the market were such that Suncor decided to take its business elsewhere, it would have a very, if not wholly, negative impact on Parachem and CEPSA. That could bring the polyester chain in Montreal to an end.

Natural Resources committee  I would compare it with an airplane. When there's a leak in a pipeline, the situation becomes crucial and escalates significantly. But, if you consider moving oil via pipelines as compared with rail, ship or truck, you see that pipelines are the safest, and most effective and efficient option.

Natural Resources committee  Ladies and gentlemen, honourable members of the House of Commons, good afternoon and thank you for inviting me. I am the Communications, Energy and Paperworkers Union of Canada, or CEP, national representative attached to union locals at the Suncor Energy refinery in Montreal, the Ultramar-Valéro refinery in Lévis, the Canterm Canadian terminals, the Shell terminal, the Parachem petrochemical plant and a number of others.