Transport committee  I'll do my best. Let me start with the actual location of the facilities. The customers by and large determine the location of the facilities. We don't own the facilities where these transload operations are occurring. To the second point, from a risk mitigation standpoint, that's something we've been very seized with as this crude by rail has grown.

Transport committee  Let me clarify my statement. I've only been at CP for 13 months, so I'm not certain of that answer. I would assume the answer is yes, but instead of my making an assumption, we'll get a firm answer and we'll come back to the committee with it. My colleagues can get that information for you.

Transport committee  Absolutely.

Transport committee  No, I'm not.

Transport committee  We'll have to get back to you, yes.

Transport committee  I have a bit of a different view. I don't know if the gentleman is right or wrong, but I would say that the railway has secured all of the insurance that we can secure. We can't buy any more insurance. I would say that there's potential for certain accidents that would exceed the value of the insurance that we have.

Transport committee  Sorry, what was the question again?

Transport committee  I would be extremely concerned with all of the unintended consequences. If we slow trains down to 15 miles an hour through all urban centres across this country and across the United States and North America, there's a whole series of other unsafe situations that would occur. We'd have blocked crossings.

Transport committee  Well, I wouldn't suggest.... Listen, let's be honest. Let's be realistic. It's about risk mitigation. Everything in life can be unsafe if it's not done properly. For us to be able to take a railway, where we're trying to move the Canadian economy's goods, and grain specifically....

Transport committee  Could you imagine if we were mandated to do what we do and we moved all of those trains at 15 miles an hour? There's a degree of risk in everything you do. There's a degree of risk when you get out on the highway and you drive your vehicle. You could have a flat tire. You could have a blown tire and wreck that vehicle.

Transport committee  I would say there are multiple layers of defence and response. To Jim's point, the conductors are trained in haz-mat response and haz-mat handling. We have haz-mat specialists across the property that are there immediately. They're on call 24-7 to at least counsel and coach those who are on the ground.

Transport committee  As far as what our stated objectives are?

Transport committee  Before I spoke on the company's behalf, I'd have to consult with the company, but personally, I would not have any objection to people knowing that, no.

Transport committee  What is the exact standard that we submitted? Was it a 15% reduction...?

Transport committee  As for safety, reduction in accidents, we have standards or measures in place for reduced injuries and for reduced accidents. We have investment standards. We have objectives as far as how we invest our money, why we're investing our money, and what specifically we're investing the money in.