Canadian Heritage committee  I agree that we have an obligation to live up to the conditions of licence that we were given by the CRTC, and we are doing that in spades.

Canadian Heritage committee  To be candid with you, I'll answer in two ways, very quickly. The network was always funded, and the ethnic programming was always subsidized, by the U.S. programming. U.S. programming in 2012 generated $55 million in revenue versus a cost of $30 million. In 2013 that revenue dro

Canadian Heritage committee  That's because now you add the emergence of Netflix, which used to be in a million homes. Now it's in four million homes, so strip programming, meaning taking Two and a Half Men, or 30 Rock or something like that, which would air at 7 o'clock every night, would generate large au

Canadian Heritage committee  With all due respect, again, we are living up to the conditions of our licence. I strongly disagree with your comments.

Canadian Heritage committee  OMNI has only one revenue source, which is advertising revenue. It doesn't have secondary—

Canadian Heritage committee  OMNI is not a not-for-profit organization. OMNI is a separate entity that is part of a private company, that runs as a separate entity with a separate P and L. If it were a not-for-profit or if it were a charitable organization, we could have that conversation, but that's not wha

Canadian Heritage committee  Well, because we can't have those conversations.

Canadian Heritage committee  Because we're not permitted to. We're not permitted to actually discuss with the cable company what we're going to do with our media companies.

Canadian Heritage committee  That's correct.

Canadian Heritage committee  No, City's losing money as well. You're saying we should use the profit that Sportsnet has to subsidize OMNI. Well, that's not the way you run a private business, sir. You have to actually look at them individually. You're not going to subsidize one business through another busin

Canadian Heritage committee  Because I believe we are meeting every condition of licence. We have to broadcast in 20 different languages; we're broadcasting in 48 different languages.

Canadian Heritage committee  Well, first, we haven't seen ones that would like to take on these conditions of licence. However, why don't we see where we are in a year from now? I beg to differ as well. For the news programming, for example, in Italian alone, in three years the ratings have eroded 68%. Let's

Canadian Heritage committee  I'm sorry?

Canadian Heritage committee  I totally disagree. I'm going to say exactly the same thing, that we are living up to our conditions of licence. The actual dollars we've put into the ethnic community, based on changing the strategy, with all due respect, do not in any way fail to live up to the spirit of the OM

Canadian Heritage committee  Excuse me. Let me finish, please.