Information & Ethics committee  They went up to the cabinet minister's executive assistant. If the request originated from a member of the House of Assembly—I guess with the emphasis on opposition members—or came from the media, or.... What was the third one? I have forgotten.

Information & Ethics committee  Organizations....

Information & Ethics committee  Any of those requests had to go to the minister's office before they could be released.

Information & Ethics committee  It was perceived as a filter through which all the information going to those requesters was filtered before it got out, and that is probably the practical result of it.

Information & Ethics committee  Coordinators are required to keep it confidential, and all of the dealings with the requester must go through the coordinator. The deputy minister or the director can't do it. There are some possible exceptions where it may become necessary, when they are requesting information directly related to that individual and the name has to be used, but other than that the requester's name is confidential.

Information & Ethics committee  We specifically recommended that they take the approach that they were dealing with customers whom they wish to attract back for the service, and that they had to provide good customer service. I think we spelled that out in the report.

Information & Ethics committee  We made specific recommendations to enhance their stature within the organizations for which they were the coordinators. The indications are that it is working, as Doug said. I spoke with somebody from the commissioner's office about four or five months ago, and he gave me an update that led me to believe that the commissioner's office had received very well the recommendations we had made and that they were working with the new legislation to make it effective.

Information & Ethics committee  I would look at it this way: Why is $5 million different from $6 million?

Information & Ethics committee  I know, but is it on a principled basis? What's the principled basis for drawing the line? If it's on the basis of receiving an amount of money, whatever amount, then that's the principled basis, namely, the receipt of money, and there shouldn't be a limitation on it. That would be my thinking.

Information & Ethics committee  I can agree with that if that's the principle to apply.

Information & Ethics committee  I can see that. My own view—and this is just my view personally—is that government control of the organization is a more important basis. Why would you bring in the local theatre society? Because government provided a certain amount. Why would they have to report on all aspects of their operations?

Information & Ethics committee  The standard ones.

Information & Ethics committee  Yes.

Information & Ethics committee  I think there are only one or two items that are outside of the commissioner's purview to review, one of which would be judge's notes. There's no way you're going to get—

Information & Ethics committee  Subsection 5(1) in the act spells it out.