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Industry committee  When we went through this discussion previously, we always thought there was so much of an emphasis on tampering with locks and that kind of thing which we thought that once it was locked up, it was going to be locked up. Usage has now come to the point where that is no longer th

May 29th, 2018Committee meeting

John Hinds

Industry committee  It would be interesting to see, right? We haven't had a definitive ruling on that, but we wait with hope. If it were locked down, and it were locked down and the terms and conditions of the contract that you agreed to as a subscriber were enforced, I think that would go a long wa

May 29th, 2018Committee meeting

John Hinds

Industry committee  I think it's a challenge for everybody right now. Most of them don't have as strong a fair dealing.... Certainly, the European countries don't have as strong a fair dealing regime as we do; I mean, it's a quote. It's more of a quote, so you don't have the same flexibility if you

May 29th, 2018Committee meeting

John Hinds

May 29th, 2018Committee meeting

John Hinds

Industry committee  Yes. I think everybody recognizes the value of social media. I think we all see those articles on social media, and newspapers put a lot of their content on social media. I think that's a voluntary thing. What we're more concerned about is the compensation model when it's not don

May 29th, 2018Committee meeting

John Hinds

Industry committee  Interestingly enough, in a lot of cases, they don't use Google ads. They sell their own advertising in the Soo and in those communities, because you just can't make enough money on the Google ads. They're selling their own ads but they're using a lot of the tools, many of which a

May 29th, 2018Committee meeting

John Hinds

Industry committee  Most Canadian journalists are covered by the collective bargaining process, and I think there have been fairly stable wages. The challenge we've had is that we've lost a lot of journalists. We continue to lose newspapers across this country almost daily. We've lost 23 of the news

May 29th, 2018Committee meeting

John Hinds

Industry committee  It would be hard to do without legislation, because you'd have to deal with the fair dealing clause for news. I can't say whether legislation would be required. With respect to the Copyright Board, it's not really a Copyright Board issue, in the sense that we would be dealing wi

May 29th, 2018Committee meeting

John Hinds

Industry committee  I think what we view strongly is that if you create something, you should have a right similar to a film or music. I think the music industry has been very effective at establishing their rights of ownership for their content, as have the software and film industries. I think wha

May 29th, 2018Committee meeting

John Hinds

Industry committee  That's right.

May 29th, 2018Committee meeting

John Hinds

Industry committee  They aggregate the content and then basically sell ads around it using the content. With Wikipedia, again, it's not a commercial enterprise, but if you look at—

May 29th, 2018Committee meeting

John Hinds

Industry committee  Fair dealing.

May 29th, 2018Committee meeting

John Hinds

Industry committee  For newsgathering.

May 29th, 2018Committee meeting

John Hinds

Industry committee  I think one of the things we were disappointed with is that we thought when this legislation came in that the paywalls would protect us, but what we've found is that you can go behind the paywall, take the content, and then put it out in the public domain.

May 29th, 2018Committee meeting

John Hinds

Industry committee  We have a really good example of this from Brunswick News, one of our members in Moncton. During the case of the Moncton shooting, there was that somewhat iconic photograph of the shooter walking down the street. Brunswick News had that behind a paywall, and it was for subscriber

May 29th, 2018Committee meeting

John Hinds