Government Operations committee  Sure. I can start and then maybe Howard can answer. One of the things that I think we've certainly recognized is that the commitment is right from the top. It's about the importance of having these relationships. We're working in these communities. They're very much part of our

Government Operations committee  No, we don't have any stats. We'd have to get back to you on that.

Government Operations committee  I would say it would be in some of the work that's being done on the policies, because they actually have unintended consequences because they put up some barriers. I don't have a specific example, but there are areas which, if you look at them through more of an economic lens, s

Government Operations committee  No, I'm good. Thanks.

Government Operations committee  The web-based one was done in-house, but we worked with aboriginal peoples, and for our social goal as well. We've also had advisers to help us do that, so that we're doing it in a respectful way and understanding what's required. The other thing that we've established is an abo

Government Operations committee  I would just say that one other piece around that, as I mentioned, is that we launched a social goal. In that social goal it's very clear that they are the aboriginal piece, and that's right from the top, and in our performances we're measured on that as well, and on what we're d

Government Operations committee  I think one-size-fits-all is really one of the things we would want to caution about. One-size-fits-all does not work with the communities with various capacity issues and capabilities. They take a little bit more, and that's why having that whole-of-government understanding of t

Government Operations committee  Yes, I would say absolutely. Getting back to that, one of the things is understanding the culture of the communities you're working in. Last year or two years ago, we developed web-based training for all of our employees, and Howard mentioned that his staff were taking that. It

Government Operations committee  One of the things we certainly learned is that it's more than just about the procurement aspect of it. Procurement is an outcome, and what we do with the contracting is really about how you engage and how you work with the communities to better understand what is happening and wh

Government Operations committee  It's also part of that long-term capacity-building. You have to really be looking at all different aspects.

Government Operations committee  I would like to—

Government Operations committee  All I was going to say is that one of the ways of looking at complexity is actually handing it out to business.... It's part of our business. It's not what happens in a corner in Howard's shop. It's part of our overall culture. In our operations, we're very much aware of the abor

Government Operations committee  Yes.

Government Operations committee  Thank you for inviting us here to speak to your standing committee today on your study on how the federal government can improve access to federal procurement opportunities. My name is Ginny Flood, and I'm the vice-president for government relations. Howard McIntyre is our vice-

Natural Resources committee  Perfect. Thank you for those remarks. I think there are a few roles that government could play. First of all, one role is how you talk about the sector, and that the sector has a future. I think that's really important from a policy perspective. It's also important from an inves