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Fisheries committee Yes. Isolated MPAs typically tend to protect one specific feature or set of species. There are many ideas for doing a network. One of them is having complementarity, which means that we protect a bit of everything. One MPA may protect rockfish, but another one may protect corals
June 15th, 2017Committee meeting
Prof. Rodolphe Devillers
Fisheries committee I would be delighted to provide you with enough reading for a few weeks.
June 15th, 2017Committee meeting
Prof. Rodolphe Devillers
Fisheries committee First, I don't think the B.C. plan for MPAs is finalized. I don't think anything is drafted, so I'm not familiar with the zones that have been shown earlier. I am not saying...but I know that the MPA network in B.C. is just in the draft process, so I believe that the industry wil
June 15th, 2017Committee meeting
Prof. Rodolphe Devillers
Fisheries committee We wrote a letter to the ministers, which we sent yesterday morning. We appended a number of references. I can provide them to you. I can provide the letter, if you're interested, for the record.
June 15th, 2017Committee meeting
Prof. Rodolphe Devillers
Fisheries committee It's a public letter. For instance, one important paper is the paper from Lester et al., 2009, in Marine Ecology Progress Series. It really showed the impact of no take. It showed that no-take zones provided more benefits than zones of lower protection. In terms of science, one
June 15th, 2017Committee meeting
Prof. Rodolphe Devillers
Fisheries committee I would be happy to do that.
June 15th, 2017Committee meeting
Prof. Rodolphe Devillers
Fisheries committee Yes.
June 15th, 2017Committee meeting
Prof. Rodolphe Devillers
Fisheries committee I said that the low level of protection would not provide the expected benefits. I'm not saying that it will do nothing; protecting something at some level will provide benefits. One of my colleagues compared MPAs to bank investments. It depends on the interest rate you get. Th
June 15th, 2017Committee meeting
Prof. Rodolphe Devillers
Fisheries committee I've been involved in the DFO process for about 10 years now, and I've looked with a lot of interest at the role of the different branches in science and oceans and all that. One way to summarize it is that science is only consulted when somebody else needs advice, but they're no
June 15th, 2017Committee meeting
Prof. Rodolphe Devillers
Fisheries committee I just want to mention that being a conservation scientist doesn't necessarily mean I'm a tree hugger. One of my main research projects is actually working with small-scale fisheries. It's an international project. We've been working on it for five or six years, trying to see ho
June 15th, 2017Committee meeting
Prof. Rodolphe Devillers
Fisheries committee To the communities and not to the ecosystem...?
June 15th, 2017Committee meeting
Prof. Rodolphe Devillers
Fisheries committee The main goal of an MPA—and I'll follow the IUCN definition—is conservation, so the benefits I see are mostly conservation, which include fish. Typically a lot of studies have looked at inside MPAs versus outside MPAs, and before and after, and shown that fish get bigger and th
June 15th, 2017Committee meeting
Prof. Rodolphe Devillers
Fisheries committee I don't think I said the maximum economic benefit, but I said the maximum benefits. I was thinking of conservation benefits as well, but it's also applied to economic benefits. Let's start with the process that is currently used by DFO, which is very specific. When they create a
June 15th, 2017Committee meeting
Prof. Rodolphe Devillers
Fisheries committee Sorry, I don't want this to be a dialogue, but just quickly. I don't work for DFO. They have a socio-economic branch, and they do a lot more analysis of the impacts. A lot of data goes there: how many people are impacted, where do these people live, how many ships do they have,
June 15th, 2017Committee meeting
Prof. Rodolphe Devillers
Fisheries committee No, the IUCN classifies MPAs at different levels. To be an IUCN category of any sort, conservation objective has to be the primary goal of any MPA. That's a requirement. Then you get anything from no take to something that can allow some extractive use, but not at the level we se
June 15th, 2017Committee meeting
Prof. Rodolphe Devillers