Justice committee  That's correct.

Justice committee  No, that's 2% who plead not guilty, not because they are challenging the test. They have a right to plead not guilty, for a variety of reasons. It's not to do with the accuracy of the testing. They've just invoked their right to have the matter heard at court. The benefit we have in this state, compared with other states in Australia, is that our first offence for drug driving is an infringement, a penalty notice, so they don't have to go to court, and it's an immediate suspension of their licence for three months.

Justice committee  It's a good question, sir. We base our general deterrence model and drug testing regime on that of alcohol. Unfortunately, it's taken 40 years for our community to really understand and find drinking and driving quite repugnant. It's socially unacceptable here, so few people now do it, but that's because of a 40-year testing regime.

Justice committee  Thank you, and thank you for the opportunity to address the standing committee, and hello from way down at the bottom of Australia. My name is Doug Fryer. I'm the assistant commissioner of road policing in my state. Just to paint the landscape, Victoria has a population of six million, and we have a driving population of four and a half million people who either ride or drive.