Industry committee  For our part, we have felt over the last few years that if we had a Copyright Board with the correct processes that was delivering decisions in a timely manner for the music publishers' and the songwriters' side of this, that would make a big difference, because things such as minima and how to properly structure a tariff shouldn't be put into the act but should be put in front of a panel, with a Copyright Board that's functioning properly.

Industry committee  The mandate of the board is presented in the Copyright Act.

Industry committee  There was a process last September through which 60 different people who go in front of the Copyright Board came up with different ways of making the Copyright Board more efficient. We put in a submission there, and a number of people you are going to hear from in the next few weeks did as well.

Industry committee  I'd be pleased to talk about that. Just to be very clear, we're talking about songwriters and not musicians when we talk about that term extension. My members invest in emerging songwriters. They find them, they provide them with studio space, and they provide them with the ability to travel and co-write with songwriters around the world.

Industry committee  Canadians companies have 20 years less. They may have a heavy investment in their portfolio of Canadian songwriters, so they have a shorter term to recoup their investments. Older songs, like those of Cole Porter, that have gone into the public domain, are still valuable.

Industry committee  We want the ISPs to take responsibility for what's flowing through their pipes.

Industry committee  We want remedies so that we could take legal action against any infringing use.

Industry committee  They are statutory damages and there is the—

Industry committee  That's against the site but with the ISP as part of the liability.

Industry committee  We want you to take responsibility when you know that activity is happening on your services.

Industry committee  There is also an ability.... Some of these services are actually active in putting the music up there and are encouraging users to put the music up there, and we want them to take responsibility.

Industry committee  The source of that was Music Canada's “The Value Gap” report.

Industry committee  The impact is on the ability of copyright holders to enforce their rights when the ISP only has to notify that there be a notice and notice. They're told, no, that's bad, but it doesn't actually act as a deterrent. This means there can be no ability to bring the services that are using the ISP's pipes to the table to negotiate, or if they're infringing content, no way to actually stop them from infringing content.

Industry committee  Yes.

Industry committee  We would like remedies that are stronger than that.