Public Safety committee  Elders in prison started out with actual elders from the community being paid by CSC to come in and be the elder for convicts, both men and women. I think around the early 2000s that policy changed, or that had changed internally within CSC, and elders were no longer approached by CSC.

Public Safety committee  Thank you. I've written some words down, so I'll just read that. “Indigenous People in the Correctional System” I said that to myself and it rings in my ears like vulgar profanity, Mostly because I'm here addressing this colonial body of the government, Responsible for putting so many of my people into prison, Because this is in English and not in Nakawemowin, a.k.a. the Saulteaux language of my people, Because I don't speak my language and have to relearn it after having it taken from me.