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Government Operations committee  There are no financial bonuses tied to it at this time. There's the management accountability framework, which is senior management. The government's management accountability framework looks at various areas of management, and departments and deputies are looked at.

November 27th, 2018Committee meeting

Nick Xenos

Government Operations committee  I think the number one thing is that we're disclosing it publicly now. Since the greening government strategy, we've disclosed emissions by department, by region and by fuel type publicly. It's all on Open Data on the website, so it's very clear how departments are doing and how we're doing overall.

November 27th, 2018Committee meeting

Nick Xenos

Government Operations committee  I think in several ways. For example, I co-chair a community practice with the B.C. government, with all of the provinces and territories. We're learning from each other as well. Different jurisdictions are doing different things and we can learn from each other. Again, that sends a signal more broadly than just the federal government, but it's working with provincial governments and we're sharing and accelerating.

November 27th, 2018Committee meeting

Nick Xenos

Government Operations committee  Yes. The ultimate outcome is how much we've reduced our carbon emissions by department.

November 27th, 2018Committee meeting

Nick Xenos

Government Operations committee  That's all on the web. The government's progress is on the web. Progress by department is indicated publicly. All the data is on Open Data. It's emissions by department, by province, by fuel type, across the country. Annually, we issue a call letter and we collect the data across departments on how they're doing.

November 27th, 2018Committee meeting

Nick Xenos

Government Operations committee  Yes. For example, there are 23 departments that have real property, that have buildings. We convene an interdepartmental group at a senior level of all departments that are greening. Just at the last meeting, for example, Defence presented on their energy environment strategy and what they're doing in their initiatives.

November 27th, 2018Committee meeting

Nick Xenos

Government Operations committee  Exactly. The technical expert departments in different areas can present there on what they can assist in and how they can help, on what services and expertise they have. Then different departments can present on the different projects they're doing. Again, it's a best practices and learning environment so that folks are supported.

November 27th, 2018Committee meeting

Nick Xenos

Government Operations committee  I think it's hard to separate the amount, because, for example, if you're renovating your house and it's time to replace your furnace, let's say, with a more efficient furnace, what we're looking to departments to do is if they just bought a furnace five years ago, not to replace it right away.

November 27th, 2018Committee meeting

Nick Xenos

November 27th, 2018Committee meeting

Nick Xenos

Government Operations committee  I would say the first thing is buying clean electricity by 2025. There are solutions—market-based solutions—there and the innovation in the market has moved very quickly. That's a really cost-effective way. That's number one. Number two is working with departments to come up with a portfolio plan, an overall plan on how to get to the low-carbon target.

November 27th, 2018Committee meeting

Nick Xenos

November 27th, 2018Committee meeting

Nick Xenos

Government Operations committee  The key thing is to embed it in the capital plan of departments and how they move forward. There isn't, per se, a separate tagged green amount in the sense that you embed it in a portfolio plan as your capital plan over the next 30 years and every action you take includes a carbon lens.

November 27th, 2018Committee meeting

Nick Xenos

Government Operations committee  Yes, starting this April 1, 75% of the administrative vehicles we buy are to be hybrid or zero-emission vehicles. That does not include national safety and security vehicles, so in this case, it was national safety and security. It was also before the April 1—

November 27th, 2018Committee meeting

Nick Xenos

Government Operations committee  I think that's a great point, because we don't want to use national safety and security if it isn't really that. We do want to tighten that definition so that it's clear, on fleet, for example, what national safety and security is. I'll give you an example of how it works. David's group has the standing offers on fleets and vehicles, so my team and David's team work closely together.

November 27th, 2018Committee meeting

Nick Xenos

Government Operations committee  That's the aim. The other thing, though, just to get ahead of the curve, is that we do have an interdepartmental working group of fleet managers, so that they're really clear on the greening government strategy and where we're going.

November 27th, 2018Committee meeting

Nick Xenos