Industry committee  We're not advocating for any changes to definitions in the Copyright Modernization Act enacted in 2012. We believe the case law has done that work for us.

Industry committee  That's a really important question, because this is important to us as well. We want to be following the guidelines of fair dealing, which means short excerpts only can be photocopied. We have heard anecdotally that there are examples of educators photocopying a full textbook, for example, and distributing that.

Industry committee  In terms of enforcement, oftentimes that process will vary from province to province, from school board to school board. As with any rule that teachers are supposed to be following or that our administrators are supposed to be following, there's a process in place in each one of our jurisdictions to ensure that the rules are being followed.

Industry committee  There's been a move in our jurisdiction to more local content, so we've partnered with our African Nova Scotian community, our indigenous population through the Mi'kmaq nation, local writers to ensure there's more local content in our curriculum. There has been a move in that regard in Nova Scotia that I can speak to very specifically, and I think that has happened in other jurisdictions as well.

Industry committee  It does vary from province to province, and it's primarily in the field of the heritage departments, the culture departments, that exist provincially. As a representative of the education system, I think we're doing our part to make sure we have more local content, particularly around parts of our history that haven't been told from a local perspective.

Industry committee  The numbers we have available are provided to you in your package. I don't know that we can extrapolate Canadian content specifically from those numbers.

Industry committee  If the proposed tariff at $13.31 was imposed nationally, that would be over $50 million.

Industry committee  That does include the territories. That doesn't include Quebec. That is one thing I forgot to mention. I'm here representing the education ministers outside of Quebec, but that does include the territories.

Industry committee  That's a difficult question for me to answer as a minister of education.

Industry committee  I'm not going to try to provide information that wouldn't be accurate and speak outside of my expertise, and, Member, I hope you can appreciate that. What I can point to is we recognize there's a whole host of factors that are impacting publishing in particular. The textbook isn't the primary source, or is becoming less of a primary source of information, in our classrooms.

Industry committee  Wanda will help me answer that for you.

Industry committee  Three hundred million dollars.

Industry committee  A change of understanding in fair dealing, we believe, would have a financial impact. In the way fair dealing is defined right now, if you have a short excerpt of materials—

Industry committee  We're defending it because we believe it's fair. The courts have gone through extensive deliberations and decisions to come up with this. It's quite complicated to develop what's fair from an academic learning standpoint, to ensure our students have access to the widest range of materials possible, and obviously ensuring that creators are properly compensated.

Industry committee  We benefit today from having Wanda Noel, who was actually present during that, who can speak better to the comments of the minister of the time. In terms of the hundreds of millions of dollars of copies that we've seen used— that number—I do think it's important to question where that number comes from.