Declaration of Emergency committee  Just in general, we've said.... It's far from us to tell the enforcement people how to enforce, how to tell bridge operators how to operate their bridges and how to tell provincial and federal authorities how to talk to each other. We do believe, and it's a simple suggestion, that if everyone gets around the table to develop a plan....

Declaration of Emergency committee  Border uncertainty is a challenge for our industry, and it continues to be a challenge. Truck drivers want to drive. They are obviously aware that the roads aren't always going to be clear and that the border is not always going to be easy to go over. The short answer to your question is yes, it had an impact, and yes, there were a number of people who handed their keys in.

Declaration of Emergency committee  We worked together. Both the American Trucking Associations and the Canadian Trucking Alliance issued statements similar to those that were read into the record. We said let's work together. Let's push this date out further, to when we can get vaccination rates up, educate more people on the benefits of vaccination and bring stability to the supply chain.

Declaration of Emergency committee  It was very frustrating. The blockades themselves were obviously frustrating, but it was equally frustrating was not knowing.... For example, at the the Ambassador Bridge, carriers started to divert over to the Blue Water Bridge. Well, the protesters adapted. Although huge numbers didn't go over there, it was enough on public highways to stop the trucks and stop trade.

Declaration of Emergency committee  Sir, as I mentioned in my opening comments, we are not security experts, but we do know that after the Emergencies Act was invoked, the blockades were lifted very shortly thereafter, and what I referred to as pop-up protests on public highways all stopped. Our industry was relieved.

Declaration of Emergency committee  I'm sorry. What's your definition of a truck depot? Do you mean a rest area, Miss...?

Declaration of Emergency committee  Do you know what the definition of a truck depot is here, Geoff?

Declaration of Emergency committee  If you could repeat the question, I might be able to answer it, but I just want to make sure that what I'm answering is actually the correct reference.

Declaration of Emergency committee  I'm purely guessing here. It's either a truck rest area or perhaps the truck terminals, but that is.... I am guessing here.

Declaration of Emergency committee  Sure. That's where we need our recommendation, and I think you heard it from the Canadian Vehicle Manufacturers' Association. Every crossing is different. The Canadian Vehicle Manufacturers' Association brought up that there are municipalities, provinces and the federal government.

Declaration of Emergency committee  Yes, that's correct.

Declaration of Emergency committee  No, they didn't. As I stated before and in a public way, very few people who were associated with these things were associated with our industry. You can see by the types of vehicles that were at the blockades

Declaration of Emergency committee  We deal with all levels of government, including Ontario. Our members out in British Columbia and Alberta—

Declaration of Emergency committee  The issue of how to move people away from borders was focused primarily on the federal government, as the trucks, or the vehicles per se, were at the federal government level. Our conversations with regard to dealing with how to remove vehicles from the roads or protesters from the roads involved multiple agencies, including the MTO.

Declaration of Emergency committee  The Canadian Trucking Alliance didn't bring those things forward to any level of government.