Canadian Heritage committee  Leverage with whom, though?

Canadian Heritage committee  Yes, but that's what it comes down to. It comes down to the fact that most people.... If you're a young artist, you've probably worked for a couple of years or a few years trying to get somewhere, and suddenly someone says, “You know what? I think we can make something out of this.

Canadian Heritage committee  I mean, one of the things that people said to me when I walked in was, “Do you have a band?” Well, no. They'd say, “Do you have a manager?” No. They said, “Well, then, get on your bike.” There wasn't.... You need to have all the components in the beginning. Look, I was really lucky.

Canadian Heritage committee  That's why a lot of artists go to hit-making machinery. They go to people who are songwriters, to other songwriters, other teams, and other producers, to try to make their record so that they do have their best foot forward when they come out. It doesn't necessarily make for an individual's artistic stamp.

Canadian Heritage committee  That's what happened to me. Once I figured out what I was doing, it was like, okay, I know what I'm doing now. I've done the university of rock. I've played every club in this country. By the way, a lot of the clubs don't even exist anymore. How do young artists even go out and get their music played?

Canadian Heritage committee  Why not 10?

Canadian Heritage committee  I'm not actually settling on 25. I'd be happy if you went for 10. If you look at the way that things have been done in the past, if 35 years after death was fair up until now, what's fair going forward? The paradigm has changed so much. Should we not reconsider something that's fairer to artists?

Canadian Heritage committee  Very good.

Canadian Heritage committee  Right.

Canadian Heritage committee  Oh, wow. Thank you.

Canadian Heritage committee  I don't know if I benefited from it in the signing aspect, because literally there was a boot mark from kicking me out of most of the studios and record companies at the time, but I will say that I think it probably helped. In the same way that a percentage of the music that is played in France has to be French content, I think the same thing has helped Canadian artists, without a doubt, here in Canada.

Canadian Heritage committee  I think so, but again, it's another question.

Canadian Heritage committee  There are so many different parts of this rainbow.

Canadian Heritage committee  I came here just to focus on what I think would be the simplest change, at this point, to help authors and composers. There's a much bigger problem with how to help artists and composers beyond this. You've just highlighted a couple of those points.

Canadian Heritage committee  Yes.