Government Operations committee  Actually, it's a non-budgetary item. Brian can expand on that, but I can tell you that we believe it's in our national interest to complete the TMX project, because we need to expand our markets for our energy. Right now, Canadian energy is being sold at a deep discount as a result of not having those markets.

Government Operations committee  That is good for all Canadians.

Government Operations committee  That is good not just for the people in the energy sector.

Government Operations committee  It is right now the—

Government Operations committee  Right now, the deep discount we're selling Canadian energy at costs us $15 billion—

Government Operations committee  It costs our economy $15 billion per year.

Government Operations committee  We're working with the public service. First of all, stabilizing the Phoenix pay system is being led by Minister Qualtrough. It's a tough job. We inherited from the previous government a pay system that was badly designed and poorly scoped out. We are working to fix that, but we're also leading the development, at Treasury Board, of the next-generation pay system.

Government Operations committee  —and we're making a great deal of progress on that.

Government Operations committee  On the back-office transformation initiative, since fiscal year 2014-15 a total of $130 million has been invested in it. In fiscal 2018-19, we'll complete the build of the Government of Canada finance and materials management solution, and we will develop a cloud-based infrastructure with a secure connection to the GC network.

Government Operations committee  The Gordie Howe bridge is important, of course, to the people of Windsor and Ontario, but it's also important to the whole country. If you look at the percentage of Canada-U.S. trade at the Detroit-Windsor crossing, it's staggering. We believe it's in our national interest to see the construction of the Gordie Howe international bridge.

Government Operations committee  —and Parliament has a responsibility. This is known as the sub judice convention. It's—

Government Operations committee  —on an ongoing basis. Again, I will not compromise that, and I think it's irresponsible for the honourable member to be speaking of a matter that is before the courts now. The independence of the judicial process is important—

Government Operations committee  I would say that I'd like to speak to my colleague Minister Qualtrough on this. I've not been asked that question before. I'd like to actually speak to Minister Qualtrough about the issue and—

Government Operations committee  I'll speak to the minister. I'll get back to you after I speak with Minister Qualtrough about it.

Government Operations committee  Mr. Chair, once again, this is a matter before the courts. I've been clear in terms of Treasury Board's role—