Government Operations committee  Okay.

Government Operations committee  So, for—

Government Operations committee  Simply, it's about how to set up your statement of merit criteria, how to set up asset qualifications. We're setting up exchange sessions to do that with other departments.

Government Operations committee  I'm sorry, I didn't hear that.

Government Operations committee  The number of people who are actually in the public service is the number I presented.

Government Operations committee  Yes.

Government Operations committee  We have veterans who are in executive positions. In fact, my ADM is a former rear-admiral from the navy. We have people who are working at various levels within the department. We are actively pursuing commissioned and non-commissioned officers, looking at whatever opportunities

Government Operations committee  Our current population is 165. It's not 75.

Government Operations committee  That's what I—

Government Operations committee  It's 10% overall.

Government Operations committee  This is a translator for civilian...so public and private sector opportunities.

Government Operations committee  We're promoting it. We're educating managers. This is a fairly new tool, and a lot of innovation has happened in the last couple of years. Now we're getting the word out. The interdepartmental working group we have for the public.... I'll ask Libby to speak to the private sector

Government Operations committee  Pardon me?

Government Operations committee  Exactly.

Government Operations committee  Yes, the Public Service Commission gathers data on the hiring of veterans across the public service. In Veterans Affairs Canada, we have also had progress with our aspirational goal. For example, before the Veterans Hiring Act, there were about 141 in total who were hired from