Government Operations committee  From the two ombudsman's offices, in terms of how we might deal with a particular complaint that comes to either of us, the typical jurisdictional line is, if it's caused by an issue to do with National Defence, our office would deal with it, and if it's caused by the Veterans Affairs process, they would deal with it.

Government Operations committee  Yes, sir.

Government Operations committee  Thank you, Mr. Chair. I want to thank the committee members for inviting me to speak to you today about hiring veterans for public service positions. I'm very humbled to appear before you today as National Defence and Canadian Armed Forces ombudsman. My name is Greg Lick. Prior to assuming my current role, I served as a director general of operations of the Canadian Coast Guard.

Government Operations committee  We recently presented to two external stakeholder groups together, and we are working on more opportunities to take the Craig and Greg show on the road. I was appointed as ombudsman on an interim basis in November 2018. For me, serving this important constituency for the past seven months has been some of the most rewarding service in my career.

Government Operations committee  My support was based on what I saw as natural links between the Canadian Coast Guard and the Canadian Armed Forces. I recognize that the links between the training elements of the Canadian Armed Forces and organizations such as the Canadian Coast Guard, Canada Border Services Agency, Parks Canada and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police may appear less clear for other departments as they look to retired members to fill public service positions.