Canadian Heritage committee  We have a number of commitments to Sport Canada for the funding to be re-established. As you mentioned earlier, we have signed with OSIC, which is a very important step for us. We've also instituted mandatory sexual assault and consent training. All of our athletes, staff and volunteers are part of that.

Canadian Heritage committee  That may be one way to look at it. I prefer to look at it and say that we needed help in a number of areas. One of the areas where we needed help with was governance. Navigator helped us with that. We have a lot of work to do on the education and sexual assault and consent training that you're speaking to.

Canadian Heritage committee  Thanks, Mr. Housefather. I'm not sure that I'm allowed to compliment you on your nice blue shirt, so I won't. To answer your question directly, we were advised early on in June—and not by Navigator—that in situations like this, boards and senior staff quite often are in a defence mode.

Canadian Heritage committee  I didn't directly craft the statement. I certainly saw it before it went out, but I didn't directly craft that statement.

Canadian Heritage committee  —the reality is that that's not dollar for dollar. It's cents on the dollar. It comes at a significant cost to us, without question.

Canadian Heritage committee  Thanks for the question, and thank you for the work that you did. I wasn't aware that was the work that you do. I share the concerns that you and all Canadians have. I have taken the training. I found it to be incredibly valuable. There's a lot more that I have to learn in this area, but it was certainly very beneficial.

Canadian Heritage committee  It's a spectrum. To me, it goes back a little bit to Mr. Julian in previous hearings when he asked what we're doing around reporting of numbers and what we're doing around maltreatment, abuse and harassment. There's a lot of work that we are doing. We're getting prepared to release a report in the next little bit that will share our first attempt to move forward and be better in this area.

Canadian Heritage committee  I'm like you. I don't want to dwell on the negative past but focus on a positive future. What I can tell you is that we have an independent third party mechanism that's now in place. We have now joined OSIC, and I think that, working with those two expert groups, we'll be in a much better position as we move forward.

Canadian Heritage committee  We've invested at this point about $6 million in total. Longview is a piece of that. There's other work that's been done too. We made an investment in OSIC. We certainly expanded our safe sport department. There are a number of things, Mr. Shields, that are within that $6 million that aggregate to be that investment we're making to move ahead—

Canadian Heritage committee  Longview helped us early—

Canadian Heritage committee  There's no question that this has been extremely challenging, which would be an understatement. We had significant meetings with the members on October 15 and October 16. The members have made it clear that they're behind us, but they've made it clear that we need a lot of work to be done.

Canadian Heritage committee  Mr. Shields, is that for me?

Canadian Heritage committee  I just wanted to touch on this. Mrs. Thomas also asked about the Cromwell report. Justice Cromwell himself, in the terms of reference, also certainly weighed in and provided his input with the terms before we moved forward with his work. To answer your question, my understanding is that it's $1.7 million.

Canadian Heritage committee  Thank you, Madam Chair, for the question. I can't speak to the previous governance reviews. I can only speak to how I operate, how our staff operates and how our members operate. At the end of the day, it's all about delivery and execution. We have a significant mandate and we need to deliver for all Canadians.

Canadian Heritage committee  Okay.