Health committee  Yes, that's all in process: in Newfoundland, British Columbia and Manitoba. We're all across the country.

Health committee  That would be under IVAC, victims of criminal violence. It's a provincially run program. That would be under the NIHB program. That would also be under the program for the Kahnawake Social Services Resource Center.

Health committee  I'm not a psychologist nor are my colleagues in my order—social workers. As a psychotherapist and Canadian certified counsellor, maybe 15% to 20% of my clients are covered through insurance plans. For the rest, if they are in financial need, I take that hit. I reduce my service fees given their paying ability.

Health committee  Maybe 10%....

Health committee  We have looked at that here. I did some research, because I was called in to this meeting on Monday, and I had full clients. I had to switch them all so that my Thursday was free, so forgive me if I don't have in-depth details. Basically for every dollar you spend you would be saving $1.37 to $1.78, I think it is, from memory.

Health committee  It's 15%.

Health committee  If I could just add.... Psychiatry is going cost more. Maybe not psychiatry because it's covered under the card, but psychologists definitely are up to the $200-and-something. If we can add more psychotherapists in, and if insurance companies can cover them, which they won't want to because it's more out of their pockets, then we're better off.

Health committee  Yes, and I can tell you that my waiting list is about two years long at this point in time.

Health committee  Especially for psychologists and psychiatrists. In Quebec, there are counselling therapists and psychotherapists who are ready to work and willing to become members of a professional body. However, the Government of Quebec's approach to professional bodies doesn't allow them to be admitted.

Health committee  This is unfortunate, and I hope that Quebec will change this soon.

Health committee  That's my dream. I think absolutely that's what we would hope for.

Health committee  A one-stop shop?

Health committee  Sure. Thank you. Counsellors and psychotherapists are also trained in cultural humility. I think that's a big piece that needs to be addressed. That is just being able to speak, understand and inform yourself as to the cultural and ethnic background of your client so they are being addressed and helped in terms that meet their language and cultural values.

Health committee  I think teamwork is always important in terms of who can do what. One stop hopefully is there, if it's a good fit, so if I'm needing a drama therapist as opposed to a psychiatrist, or a play therapist, I'm getting my needs met for my child or youth. It's not necessarily a psychiatrist who's going to be helping my child and being able to access their need through talk therapy, but there are other methodologies out there that we need to be including more of.

Health committee  I'm not a psychologist, but rather a couple and family therapist.