Public Accounts committee  It's made to help the entrepreneur get access to government contracting that would allow them to grow the company in whatever fashion they want.

Public Accounts committee  That could be your interpretation, but it's not the reality. The reality is that there are a lot of government—

Public Accounts committee  No, you weren't repeating what I just said. In the context of the PSIB, it's spread out across the entire country, and there are lots of people who are working within the framework of that. All of this—

Public Accounts committee  My understanding of the value that you put out was $91 million. I've got it in front of me. It was from 2015 until now. At the same time, you can look at the PSAB and PSIB policies, and nowhere will it state—

Public Accounts committee  Not much, to be honest with you. In the end, if you talk about what happened between Botler and GC, they could put anything on there as far as their experience is concerned. Our relationship is with GC and with the Crown, with CBSA, as our subcontractor.

Public Accounts committee  Me personally, zero. I was at DND to—

Public Accounts committee  My company, obviously. It was a JV, so we obviously had interaction with GC Strategies in performing the task authorization requirements, yes.

Public Accounts committee  I'd have to check with our staff and ask them that. I'm not aware. Obviously they had to have some interaction between the task authorization request and our relationship with GC, but I'm not aware of the details of what they discussed as far as Botler is concerned.

Public Accounts committee  Absolutely. That's why we're just as dismayed as everybody else as to why and how we could have gotten this information wrong.

Public Accounts committee  I would expect that given our relationship as the prime to CBSA we would have staffed up the package for the task authorization to them as part of the requirements package. It would have gone on Dalian letterhead, but I'm not sure exactly what the interaction or documents or letterhead was between Botler and GC—

Public Accounts committee  Again, I am not—

Public Accounts committee  I can give you the process. I have never seen anything—

Public Accounts committee  I understand what the process would be because I understand task authorizations, but I have not seen any of the paperwork personally.

Public Accounts committee  I can assume that, obviously, with us as the prime and giving the CBSA this documentation as part of the task authorization, it would have gone on Dalian letterhead—

Public Accounts committee  He is.