Health committee  I haven't seen their financial documents, even though, as we're aware, not-for-profits can still pay people. I'm not aware of the flow-through of funding or their success in obtaining funds in the first place.

Health committee  No, unfortunately, they have not. It's my belief their intention was to ensure that there was no capability to assess the performance of the programs they have grown over these last few years.

Health committee  Thank you. It started some time ago. We were stymied in gaining access to additional data to link with the databases that we already had. Those were actions by the province and the BCCDC. It really became most clear when we published the rapid review. I don't understand Professor Nosyk's remark.

Health committee  I did my best to protest, but we were forced to destroy the database, and that has been done. I provided a briefing to deputy ministers—all the non-dirt deputy ministers.

Health committee  The Government of British Columbia.

Health committee  I started it at UBC. I subsequently moved it to my position at Simon Fraser University. This is data that we obtained from multiple government ministries, in some cases with the consent of people we were aiming to assist, people with profound addictions who were living homeless in Vancouver and who were participating in some of our intervention efforts.

Health committee  There was no question of propriety. In fact, we had agreed with the government to renew the database for another period. That had been formally completed with the Ministry of Health, and we were rebuilding it around an additional study looking at addiction and death in COVID. There was no rationale.

Health committee  No one at the university was coming to my defence. They persisted in ordering it done. I didn't see any recourse. Maybe I should have spoken with you earlier.

Health committee  Yes, there absolutely should be rules. These types of relationships should be transparent. The Stanford-Lancet Commission urged the same thing. In fact, when they assessed the roots of the North American opioid crisis in Canada and the U.S., the first area they highlighted was conflicts of interest and the movement—and Dr.

Health committee  Unfortunately, no, I don't, but I share your observation that it is a perverse irony.

Health committee  They absolutely should be released because they represent public expenditures that are directly related to a highly controversial set of drug policies that are really only active in Canada, so we absolutely need greater transparency. I would add that we need greater transparency on the flow of public and private funds into organizations like the BCCSU.

Health committee  It's the evidence.

Health committee  The Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police—

Health committee  Were any of them trained in addiction?

Health committee  There are a number of allegations in your preamble. I'll focus on the question you concluded with. We wrote a review. It did not, as Bohdan suggests, veer away from discussing the facts of what we found. Other reviewers at the same time had reached the same conclusion, which was that there is no evidence to support the safety or effectiveness of these practices.