Canada-China Relations committee  Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Trudel, thank you for your question. I will give you a two-part answer. First, I can talk about national security and security intelligence. Then I may ask my colleague the RCMP commissioner to talk about the investigation. It is unfortunately not a surprise when these types of situations occur.

Declaration of Emergency committee  As I mentioned earlier, the Emergencies Act refers to the CSIS Act, but the information from CSIS is just one part of the information. We do not have the power to lay charges, so we gave that information to law enforcement—

Declaration of Emergency committee  Can you please repeat it?

Declaration of Emergency committee  I'm not sure, Mr. Green, that we can make a comparison like that. For any element of terrorism, facts that are in front of the police need to be looked at, and then charges laid. The definition of terrorism to allow CSIS to investigate is very clear in the CSIS Act, and it is what we've been using—

Declaration of Emergency committee  Mr. Green, I have the executive director of ITAC, who is the author of that document. I'm going to turn the floor over to her. Thank you.

Declaration of Emergency committee  CSIS does not have the power to recommend any criminal charges. That's not in our act.

Declaration of Emergency committee  I cannot speak for what the minister had in mind when he made those comments, but our assessment of the manifesto was that it was obviously something of concern. We needed to understand if they were either...the specific manifesto or other people who would be influenced by that manifesto—

Declaration of Emergency committee  Thank you very much, Senator Harder. I appreciate your generosity in bringing me into the conversation. As I mentioned before, we're seeing that the phenomenon of IMVE has been increasing over the last number of years, mostly fuelled by social media. You referenced the American experience as a connection.

Declaration of Emergency committee  Mr. Motz, thank you. I do not remember specifically, but it would not be unusual for CSIS members throughout the country to receive information. I do not recall specifically, however.

Declaration of Emergency committee  I am only aware of the “spy plane”, as you call it, from the media, so we have not had any involvement.

Declaration of Emergency committee  Thank you, Mr. Green. I know you're looking for some level of precision that, unfortunately, I cannot provide you in this context. We have provided advice to the government.

Declaration of Emergency committee  Mr. Green, you asked me to respect my duty of candour. I told you that I will absolutely respect that. I also have to respect the law of the land that prevents me from answering with classified information in a public setting.

Declaration of Emergency committee  —CSIS definition, but it's also very clear that the Governor in Council, when it decides to invoke the Emergencies Act, is using all sorts of information. It does not rely solely on CSIS. It may or may not even be appropriate to use information from CSIS, depending on the situation.

Declaration of Emergency committee  Thank you very much for the question. I think there are a couple of elements in this that you are noting, Ms. May. It is absolutely accurate that the Emergencies Act is using the—

Declaration of Emergency committee  Actually, every day at CSIS, as per our act, we investigate issues related to a threat to the safety of Canada. Every day, unfortunately, CSIS employees and professionals are uncovering and investigating threats to the security of Canada.