Government Operations committee  All departments included.

Government Operations committee  We literally collected them from the main--

Government Operations committee  I'm sorry?

Government Operations committee  I want to be clear. It is for communications costs in terms of planned, as in main, estimates. When we look at expenditures, in terms of planned expenditures, if I can make that difference, in terms of advertising per se, those are published on a quarterly basis on the Treasury Board Secretariat website.

Government Operations committee  The consultants are found in the operating budgets. There is a line item for that—and my colleague is pointing that out. For 2010-11, the planned—again, this is something we collected—is on page I-34 of the main estimates.

Government Operations committee  No, it's actually on I--

Government Operations committee  That's correct. And that one is estimated to be, according to the main estimates, $9.8 billion.

Government Operations committee  Billion, yes.

Government Operations committee  It's called professional services, so it could be management, it could be—

Government Operations committee  No, no. It could be information technology services, it could be database rental--it's all professional services that are retained.

Government Operations committee  I think we find that the most effective way is to do so through the public accounts, because that is after the fact. We can give you what the planned are. It is then dependent on how each organization decides to do the coding.

Government Operations committee  I think that would take quite a bit of time to do. Alister.

Government Operations committee  That's right.

Government Operations committee  When we look at actual expenditures for either the management consulting and/or communications, if I can put it that way, we don't segment out advertising—and I'll come back to that in a minute. Those are actually published in the public accounts, in terms of the actual expenditures, and you will find the line items that are collected in the public accounts for those amounts.

Government Operations committee  That's correct. They're actual expenditures. In terms of the main estimates—I'm getting there—information is drawn from communications costs. Those communications costs include advertising services, publishing services, and public relations and public affairs services. In terms of the main estimates for 2010-11...I have the main estimates for 2009-10 because we don't have the actual amounts for 2009-10 yet.