Public Safety committee  I can't speak specifically for the Toronto area, but in the conversation with Madame Michaud earlier, in the article she was referring to in Le Journal de Montréal, the local paper in the city of Montreal.... My recollection—and I'm not going to say just handguns, but firearms—is that it varies from $1,000 to $8,000.

Public Safety committee  I am aware of this article in Le Journal de Montréal. If memory serves, this seizure was made between ports of entry. This is a route that people use to smuggle contraband into Canada. As I explained earlier, when we're between ports of entry, it's a challenge, given the geography and the length of the border.

Public Safety committee  No, I do not. The Akwesasne route has been known to smugglers for a long time. However, I can assure you that we are working closely with the Akwesasne Mohawk Police Service, the Sûreté du Québec detachment in Salaberry‑de‑Valleyfield and the one in Cornwall, our American partners at U.S.

Public Safety committee  From a federal policing perspective, it's not only nationally, provincially, and with municipal partners that we're working the border, but also internationally with our Five Eyes partners. With the U.S. counterparts we have several integrated teams that are set up throughout the border to address sharing of intelligence, to investigate and whatnot.

Public Safety committee  Thank you, Steve. I will take that one. The federal policing has an important role to play when it comes to firearms. In terms of the feed-in that we're providing to projet Centaure, we have several resources that are embedded with projet Centaure from an analytical point of view.

Public Safety committee  I would have to follow up with you on that. I'm more than happy to do that. I don't have the exact date.

Public Safety committee  It's been around for several years.

Public Safety committee  Thank you, Steve. To your question, ma'am, yes, we do have good relationships with indigenous communities throughout the country. Mind you, it might vary from the others. When we're talking about along the borders, we have a good relationship. I will give you an example in Quebec with the Akwesasne Mohawk Police Service.

Public Safety committee  Thank you, Steve. Sir, just to come back to some of the questions, detecting the source of illegal firearms is difficult, given their clandestine nature. We don't seize everything that's coming in-between the ports of entry. When we're talking about firearms, I'd like to widen that to other pieces that are attached to the firearms, like an extended magazine, which is illegal in Canada.

Public Safety committee  The only thing I can add, sir, within 20 seconds, is that we've done several searches over the past year where we've seized a considerable amount of ammo stored by certain individuals. Again, you buy a box of ammo here, a box of ammo there, and eventually it starts building up. That's also difficult, I think, to control.

Public Safety committee  I can't shy away. I was the one who said that. On the national security side for the RCMP there is a 1-800 number, 1-800-420-5805, but I think the underlying message here for the Canadian population is to call their local police, to call the police of jurisdiction. We have ties in different provinces with the POJs.

Public Safety committee  I will start off, and then Tim...and I see that Mark had his hand on the microphone. Very quickly, the challenging part in this is the spectrum of activity that gets the person to actually commit the act. It's a little bit like the radicalization aspect. It's not illegal to be radicalized.

Public Safety committee  Of the 273, there are about one-fifth of them, the majority of which include anti-government and anti-law enforcement. What we're seeing are disparaging remarks, condescending remarks towards elected officials or appointed officials. I would say that most of time, or a lot of the time, they don't meet the criminal threshold to lay a charge.

Public Safety committee  Thank you, Mr. Harris. Again, it's an ideology. It's not a group; it's not considered a group. There are pockets of single individuals who have the same ideology. I would not be able to put a number on that.

Public Safety committee  I'm not quite sure who it's directed to. I think it begins with public vigilance and reporting. It's very important that when people see something that they report it. There are patterns that can be detected early on, with different posts, that could lead the service to disruption or the RCMP to investigate and lay charges before something happens.