Public Accounts committee  I would not go so far as to say that.

Public Accounts committee  [Editor's Note: Inaudible]

Public Accounts committee  Let me clarify a point. One of the roles of our lobbyists is to inform the committee by supplying it with the information it needs. I think that that was what the lobbyists were doing.

Public Accounts committee  Their role is to manage affairs that have to do with this committee.

Public Accounts committee  Not necessarily.

Public Accounts committee  I met Ms. Buckler twice. Her role was to advise us and help us regarding the issues before this committee. She began to work with us and do lobbying for us in the month of May, which was seven months after the contract was awarded to us.

Public Accounts committee  No.

Public Accounts committee  I am not saying that it is false, and I cannot confirm that it is true. I do not know whether she was trying to stall the adoption of this motion.

Public Accounts committee  Precisely.

Public Accounts committee  Not at all.

Public Accounts committee  The thing that changed, Mr. Proulx, is the way in which the evaluation of the bid would be made; it was reviewed. The content did not necessarily change, what changed was the way in which the respondents could respond and in which they would be judged or evaluated.

Public Accounts committee  Of course. It was awful, we had to build everything up again from scratch.

Public Accounts committee  Yes.

Public Accounts committee  To our knowledge, the government looked into this issue and concluded that there was no conflict of interest. There was a perceived conflict of interest. A group went on personal holidays, and they paid through a local travel agent who organized the group excursion. Each one paid his own way.

Public Accounts committee  There was—