Justice committee  That's exactly what it's doing. It's proposing to address the more serious offences, and in addition, Bill C-14 would codify the principle that in sentencing for such attacks, which undermine the justice system more broadly, judges would be required to consider deterrents and denunciation as primary sentencing objectives.

Justice committee  It is a difficult question you raise, and I think you're right that the legislative answer might not be the best one. What we do know is that street gangs are being successfully prosecuted under the criminal organization offences. It's not frequent, but we have had successful prosecutions in Quebec, for example, and in British Columbia as well.

Justice committee  In 2006, 74 murders of the 104 were first degree, 29 were second degree, and one was manslaughter. We have statistics going back to 2000. Looking at this historically, according to our Statistics Canada information, you are seeing an increase in both first degree and second degree murder rates.

Justice committee  If you are asking how many new charges....