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Transport committee  Yes, from a training perspective we see it as being equivalent.

May 6th, 2010Committee meeting

Laura Logan

Transport committee  I believe they are. The TSA may have more flexibility in their ability to move people from one area to another in a time of need. If there was an incident in one area of the country, they could reassign people from one to the other. With CATSA, if they have one security provider in one airport and a different provider in another airport, they can't move them between because of the contract.

May 6th, 2010Committee meeting

Laura Logan

Transport committee  We fully support the layered approach. All security measures consist of layers. Some are known to the public, some are not. That's why the actual details of the security measures are distributed to the airlines in confidential documents, because there's a lot that we do behind the scenes.

May 6th, 2010Committee meeting

Laura Logan

Transport committee  It was about the efficiency. That's where we were talking about using other information and other approaches so that the screening doesn't happen strictly at the checkpoint. If it happens throughout the process and we have information fairly early on in the process, we can build systems.

May 6th, 2010Committee meeting

Laura Logan

Transport committee  Yes, we support that direction.

May 6th, 2010Committee meeting

Laura Logan

Transport committee  CATSA does have a program in place. It's not highly publicized, but just before the entry of these screening points—I'm not sure if it's everywhere, but I've definitely seen it in Toronto—if you have an item that is inappropriate for travelling but you want to maintain ownership of it, they have little mail envelopes and you can essentially mail it back yourself and get it home safely that way.

May 6th, 2010Committee meeting

Laura Logan

Transport committee  Based on intelligence that's floating around, yes.

May 6th, 2010Committee meeting

Laura Logan

Transport committee  That's actually an aviation safety issue, so that's outside our area of expertise.

May 6th, 2010Committee meeting

Laura Logan

Transport committee  We have to resolve the safety issues and whether or not they pose conflicts with the communications the pilots are using on the aircraft. Once that's resolved, and it looks as if we're going to be opening that up, if that happens, then we would be looking at it from a security perspective, but at this point it's premature.

May 6th, 2010Committee meeting

Laura Logan

May 6th, 2010Committee meeting

Laura Logan

Transport committee  Yes. It's a heavy system.

May 6th, 2010Committee meeting

Laura Logan

Transport committee  It's 30%.

May 6th, 2010Committee meeting

Laura Logan

Transport committee  We were very much involved. We were in contact with these people practically every day.

May 6th, 2010Committee meeting

Laura Logan

Transport committee  Yes. In terms of procedures, we all have our own perspective and expertise. When decisions are made without our having been consulted, we often have the sense that we could have improved the process.

May 6th, 2010Committee meeting

Laura Logan

Transport committee  Yes, there's quite a series of forms that you have to complete, as well as submitting your passport and a lot of personal information that is then reviewed by CBSA. Then you get called in, you pass an interview with a CBSA agent, and after paying a fairly significant enrolment fee, you get your card.

May 6th, 2010Committee meeting

Laura Logan