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Veterans Affairs committee  My experiences? Even though I have terminal cancer, even though it will cut my life short—I was given eight years to live 10 years ago and I'm still here—would I change anything? No, I wouldn't. If I had been better informed of some of the risks at the time, I would have taken some precautions, but I wasn't, so I can't change that.

March 21st, 2013Committee meeting

Steve Dornan

Veterans Affairs committee  Actually, no. What it is to meet that burden of proof is actually very well written within the Pension Act. The problem is, right now, that the Veterans Review and Appeal Board in our case did not follow that. They looked for absolute causality. There had to be no question that it was the depleted uranium and nothing else, and of course you can't do that.

March 21st, 2013Committee meeting

Steve Dornan

March 21st, 2013Committee meeting

Steve Dornan

Veterans Affairs committee  To answer your question, I asked and was told it wasn't available. The other thing we did in the research was that we looked at what the testing entailed and what was involved. We pulled up what's called depleted natural uranium in urine, a PPT laboratory analytical exercise. This was Defence Canada.

March 21st, 2013Committee meeting

Steve Dornan

Veterans Affairs committee  It is very important because this test was done. I have it right here from Defence Canada. In fact Canadian Forces health services were part of this. They tested with Los Alamos labs. Los Alamos labs is the leading uranium researcher in the States, and they're the ones that provided the spiked control group urine samples to be tested.

March 21st, 2013Committee meeting

Steve Dornan

Veterans Affairs committee  When I was dealing with the hospital in Greenwood, I asked about it. They made inquiries to Ottawa, got back to me, and told me that it wasn't available. They checked with Canadian Forces Health Services Centre Ottawa, and the surgeon at that time said it was not available.

March 21st, 2013Committee meeting

Steve Dornan

Veterans Affairs committee  No, I would not have a record of their inquiries, I'm sorry.

March 21st, 2013Committee meeting

Steve Dornan

Veterans Affairs committee  It's perfect timing, sir, because I'm on my last slide.

March 21st, 2013Committee meeting

Steve Dornan

Veterans Affairs committee  How do you get there? Presumptive causation. We already have the mechanism within the Pension Act to do this. It's already done by the U.S.; it's already done in Canada. That's how ALS is listed as a presumptive cause. For the one-offs, like myself, and the people who worked with depleted uranium as Canadian Forces members, this is the only way we will ever get treatment and a pension through Veterans Affairs.

March 21st, 2013Committee meeting

Steve Dornan

Veterans Affairs committee  Yes, absolutely, and being the good former sergeant major, I'm going to do a little PowerPoint here as well. One of the things I want to point out that was overlooked with regard to other soldiers who have had investigations with regard to this is that another soldier from the U.K., a Mr.

March 21st, 2013Committee meeting

Steve Dornan