Transport committee  Our organization has a very long history of support for that legislation.

Transport committee  Within a company, though.

Transport committee  In terms of the premise of your question, it would be irresponsible for us, as an organization, to put forward a position that would provide less safety within the workplace. That's not what we are putting forward. As far as SMS are concerned, safety management systems, we do not object to a culture where safety is primary within an organization.

Transport committee  I have no reason to believe there's anything in this legislation that would make the end results different on the aviation side.

Transport committee  I think the accident rate we're seeing in the rail sector is in direct relation to the reduction in inspection and the delegation of those authorities to industry.

Transport committee  I don't want to misrepresent or overstate. I don't think companies are making a decision to compromise safety or that safety is not going to be compromised, but it's the end result. When all of these cutbacks happen gradually, they end up affecting safety. I'm not going to say it's a deliberate decision on the part of industry.

Transport committee  Not railway workers, but railway inspectors, Mr. Julian. Our members work for Transport Canada. The members who work in this particular area do not work for industry.

Transport committee  I think the statistics speak for themselves. These are the very concerns we have about SMS in the aviation industry. It's quite understandable that private companies would be interested in maintaining a bottom line. Some of these decisions that are being made on a day-to-day basis are a question of whether the bottom line is going to be affected, or whether safety is going to be affected.

Transport committee  I did not.

Transport committee  Thank you, Mr. Laframboise. Our members are responsible for carrying out the responsibilities of the minister under the Aeronautics Act. It has a number of authorities that it is responsible for. It ensures, first of all, that the planes have been certified as air worthy and have been given a certificate to ensure that they're capable of flying.

Transport committee  That's correct.

Transport committee  One of the groups that I believe is looking to make presentation to the committee has brought to our attention that some of their workplace health and safety committees that fall under the guidance of part II of the Canada Labour Code are being denied access to safety issues that are not being brought forward because of confidentiality and non-disclosure.

Transport committee  I'll pass that on.

Transport committee  We will.

Transport committee  Thank you, Mr. Chair and members of the committee, for the opportunity to participate in the deliberations on Bill C-6, amendments to the Aeronautics Act. As we all know, this bill has been around for quite a while, and Transport Canada has in effect been acting as if the legislation were already in place.