International Trade committee  Yes. In terms of the ruling, to my understanding of the way it is, if we sell anything into the European market or into any market—we'll talk about the TPP tomorrow—and it is below our domestic price, what we sell retail here, it is considered a subsidy. That's the problem we have.

International Trade committee  I could.

International Trade committee  No, it's just a matter of how much time we have.

International Trade committee  Most of our cull cows go down into the United States right now from British Columbia, and the ones locally all go into hamburger. Thank you, McDonald's, you guys are doing a good job.

International Trade committee  Thirty per cent are culled every year.

International Trade committee  Correct.

International Trade committee  Do you want me to answer that?

International Trade committee  Probably about 700 or 800.

International Trade committee  Yes. Well no, I should maybe correct that. In our industry, the consolidation is about 2.5% to 3% per year. It's the same as the United States without supply management.

International Trade committee  If that is the truth.

International Trade committee  It's exciting if that is correct. I'm not sure if it is. Because my understanding is that it is not. We do not have unfettered access, and I hope—

International Trade committee  Seven percent, and I don't know what that would equate to in dollars, but I would think that would probably be in the neighbourhood of $20 million to $30 million.

International Trade committee  Cross-border shopping just in British Columbia on whole milk took 7% of our market in the last five years.

International Trade committee  No, I didn't say that.

International Trade committee  All across the country. There are some export opportunities in certain areas, but not a lot. Under the trade agreements that we have there are some quotas that we can fill abroad.