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Canada-China Relations committee The documents I think provide a level of clarity about this. In my testimony last week and this week, I spoke to the fact that we went to the Public Health Agency and the lab to share with them our concern about an insider threat specifically about the type of environment they're
April 15th, 2024Committee meeting
David Vigneault
Canada-China Relations committee Thank you for the question. As the minister mentioned, if we were to look back to 30 years ago, we would see that there were prospects and opportunities in China as well as optimism that might have led us to believe China might join the global economic system and eventually move
April 15th, 2024Committee meeting
David Vigneault
Canada-China Relations committee The minister is right. For the specific details, I think PHAC is better placed to answer. What I would say at the more strategic level is that the approach of the thousand talents program, the approach of the economic espionage of the PRC, is to acquire material, know-how and da
April 15th, 2024Committee meeting
David Vigneault
Canada-China Relations committee CSIS has been working with PHAC on these issues for a few years now. If there were any individuals engaged in any way who represented national security issues, I would be working with PHAC to make sure they have the information to take the proper measures. I cannot confirm the s
April 15th, 2024Committee meeting
David Vigneault
Canada-China Relations committee Yes, I continue to hold the belief that it was a very expeditious process. In August 2018, when we first engaged with PHAC to give them an insider threat briefing, they raised a concern with CSIS about the two scientists. That led us to share some information and some advice wit
April 15th, 2024Committee meeting
David Vigneault
Canada-China Relations committee Thank you, Minister. In my testimony last week, I provided some key dates for the engagement between CSIS and PHAC that led to PHAC hiring a private company to do the investigation. I think that sequencing has been provided to the committee.
April 15th, 2024Committee meeting
David Vigneault
Canada-China Relations committee I welcome the opportunity. I will work with my colleagues and endeavour to provide some of our thoughts and potentially even bold advice to the committee.
April 8th, 2024Committee meeting
David Vigneault
Canada-China Relations committee Yes, the authority is indeed through the president or the deputy head. It's the same for revocation.
April 8th, 2024Committee meeting
David Vigneault
Canada-China Relations committee I'll be very transparent with the member: This is not an issue we at CSIS have looked at. I have not personally looked at the capacity the way you referred to it, Mr. Chong. In answering Mr. Bergeron's question, I mentioned we have already connected and engaged with the Saskat
April 8th, 2024Committee meeting
David Vigneault
Canada-China Relations committee I think what we realized is that the dynamics in our countries have been changing for some time. There are a number of threat actors, unfortunately, who are after what we have. They want what we have here: our know-how, expertise and intellectual property. As I mentioned before,
April 8th, 2024Committee meeting
David Vigneault
Canada-China Relations committee I think it's an interesting point in the sense that some organizations may have more in-house capabilities to do some of these sophisticated investigations. In this case, Mr. Chong, I don't know if you've had the chance to ask PHAC a question on why they did that. In my experie
April 8th, 2024Committee meeting
David Vigneault
Canada-China Relations committee Our mandate at CSIS is fairly clear in this circumstance. We would investigate the national security threat and do the security screening aspect, but everything between those arcs, the administrative portion, we would not be equipped to do. It would not be appropriate. I want to
April 8th, 2024Committee meeting
David Vigneault
Canada-China Relations committee —so I don't know the rationale for PHAC.
April 8th, 2024Committee meeting
David Vigneault
Canada-China Relations committee According to the government security screening policy, the authority rests with the deputy head of each organization.
April 8th, 2024Committee meeting
David Vigneault
Canada-China Relations committee Yes. In terms of the delegation of authority, I believe it is possible—
April 8th, 2024Committee meeting
David Vigneault