Public Accounts committee  He couldn't contract anymore.

Public Accounts committee  I'm not sure. I'd have to check with my people.

Public Accounts committee  I didn't know we had a corrupt guy in the organization at that time.

Public Accounts committee  “Corrupt” is a pretty strong word. He's not the only individual I found in—

Public Accounts committee  Well, I don't think you—

Public Accounts committee  No, I never instructed him to hire my son. My son was hired through the Public Service Commission, as any other employee would be hired.

Public Accounts committee  His name is Fred Dupuis.

Public Accounts committee  He was hired within that area, but he was working in the central region at the time.

Public Accounts committee  Yes, very worried.

Public Accounts committee  I wasn't receiving any benefits.

Public Accounts committee  First of all, at that time, this was a habit in the early 1970s—

Public Accounts committee  I don't think you can say a yes or no answer. For one of those occasions, actually I was asked to represent the RCMP and go and donate a cheque for $6,000 and give a speech to the Canadian Cancer Society. At that time, they asked me to play with the president of the Canadian Cancer Society for the Ottawa region.

Public Accounts committee  First of all, I didn't have anything to do with 3M. I never had anything to do with 3M. In terms of Algonquin, yes. What I've done is written every member who was there and asked them to remit.

Public Accounts committee  Yes, I was.

Public Accounts committee  We knew it was costing more, and I explained that. We were also implementing Bill C-78. The records were in very poor shape. We had 40,000 files that had to be corrected. That's where a lot of the money went.