Information & Ethics committee  We never had his cellphone.

Information & Ethics committee  I don't know if he ever had ours. We certainly never had his cellphone. We've never had a meal together socially. We've never golfed.

Information & Ethics committee  I think it was when he was chair of Katimavik—I think it was 2007 he was chair, wrapping up—we invited Katimavik and him in that capacity. I think he didn't come, but maybe the next year he did. Again, this was before politics, in the Katimavik role.

Information & Ethics committee  To be candid, I wish this had gone to tender. I wish that anyone could have bid on this. Again, to be candid, I wish this had been an open bid, because I still feel we may have been a good contender among many others. I wish there had been a proper recusal in the process. I wish

Information & Ethics committee  To clarify, a staff member wrote that. Every person got a personalized two-liner.... And because the federal government generally was engaging with us, it was a thank you for supporting—I don't even know the wording—for use, whatever—

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Information & Ethics committee  Some messages went out that day or the day before, all thanks for supporting kids, thanks for helping youth volunteers.

Information & Ethics committee  I understand. We're not hiding the fact that we engaged with the PMO. We had a conversation with Rick Theis. We had a conversation with the PMO on this. There's no need for us to hide this; it's on the record. We legitimately spoke to them. They had actual questions. We gave the

Information & Ethics committee  Minister Chagger spoke on a different proposal suggesting we incorporate the service stream. That's correct.

Information & Ethics committee  I've submitted the email that says from Ms. Wernick on the 19th, “I am sorry for the 'out of the blue' email on a Sunday morning.” She said that she needed to urgently speak to that matter. I wrote back to her saying I was happy to speak. We spoke that same day. In the email we'v

Information & Ethics committee  Was Spotify really being considered to deliver a—

Information & Ethics committee  I agree with you she didn't come out of the blue because she'd funded us two years earlier to test—

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Information & Ethics committee  Yes, because 20% goes to Speakers' Spotlight as part of the booking, even [Technical difficulty—Editor].

Information & Ethics committee  I apologize, but to add, you mentioned the report by the former deputy solicitor general, who identified that there were not any inappropriate dealings with WE Charity in engaging the government. There was an independent review by forensic auditors who looked at the financial sou