Finance committee  Mr. Chair, members, guests and witnesses, it's a pleasure to be here. It's good see you again, Mr. Fonseca. It has been a number of years since we last commiserated, and a lot of water has gone under the bridge since that time. Canadians for Affordable Energy is really the brai

Industry committee  Yes. Go ahead.

Industry committee  I think you're correct, but what I wasn't able to say in my original comments—I hope you get a distribution from the clerk—was that Steve Koonin, the former undersecretary under Obama, also said we can't overestimate the idea that somehow climate change is going to have a negativ

Industry committee  That's a really good question, Mr. Baldinelli. I don't know how they're going to do it. I've strained to try to find out how you're going to achieve.... Assuming the Paris target of 30% under 2005 by 2030, you're now increasing that to 40% or 45%—

Industry committee  Yes. I don't know how you can achieve that. Look, the next data and information that the committee has to understand, and I think is going to hear, is that with the lockdown in Canada, we saw a 7% decrease. Are we all planning, then, to accept a sevenfold, seven-year lockdown i

Industry committee  It's a very good question, Mr. Erskine-Smith. I know of your good work. I see a streak in you that I might have seen in myself 20 or 30 years ago, so hats off to you. You're on the right committee. My constituents would have raised issues at the time of why you'd see increased t

Industry committee  Mr. Baldinelli, thank you, and it's a great pleasure. I'm not very far from you here in Oakville. I can tell you that, from my home right now, you see the electricity that comes from the Adam Beck, one of the few lines left over from 1911. Of course it does concern all of us,

Industry committee  Mr. Ehsassi, I'm sorry, what section were you referring to, my questions before with other members or the initial commentary?

Industry committee  No, I'm sorry. With all due respect, I think you asked me a question, not about the question I've just answered but in fact this one here. You said I've said something in testimony. Can you raise where that was or can you have Liberal research change that for you?

Industry committee  Mr. Ehsassi, I'm not sure where you're reaching for that. If you think I said that, that's fine. I'll leave that with you. I don't believe I said that. What I said was that I think Canada has to be careful of the role and the emphasis it places on changes that are going to have

Industry committee  Mr. Ehsassi, I think it's fairly clear that when you have a government saying that they can change, and they grandstand on targets and say that we can achieve 30% below 2005 levels, without taking into consideration what we've done already prior to 2005, and shutting down coal pl

Industry committee  I hope it does, too. There's no doubt that carbon taxes are hurting farmers, and I think Parliament has to address that issue.

Industry committee  No, Mr. Ehsassi, but as you know, I've written law.

Industry committee  Mr. Ehsassi, I'm not a scientist either.

Industry committee  Well, Mr. Ehsassi, that depends. If the Supreme Court—