Medical Assistance in Dying committee  I would like to hear from Dr. Bigham and Dr. Pringle on this. We're living in a world right now without advance requests. To both of you as medical professionals, is Sandra's approach acceptable to you? She has a long record of saying these are her views; she has experience; she is prepared to write it down; and the family or substitute decision-makers have agreed.

Medical Assistance in Dying committee  Dr. Gauthier, do you think we can actually do that? You've talked about the six stages and the defining, but we also know that these diseases are very individual. It may be hard to categorize people, which is of course the very essence of an advance request. I want to be able to make that request when I'm still thinking clearly and rationally, not after the fact or perhaps when I've morphed into a happy dementia state.

Medical Assistance in Dying committee  It's to have the patient's list of criteria—be it three, eight or 10—and have it match in advance with categories determined by the medical profession.

Medical Assistance in Dying committee  Okay, thank you very much.

Medical Assistance in Dying committee  Thank you very much. I want to come back to Ms. Guillemette on this concept of happy dementia. It troubles me greatly, because it leaves all of the decision-making to people who may not have been aware of the patients' initial witnesses or concerns, aware of what they may have stated in a document.

Medical Assistance in Dying committee  Thank you very much. I would like to hear from Dr. Trew and Mr. Rahim in response to a comment by Dr. Nicolini that we really don't have enough clarity on what the end stage of mental illness is, as we would in diabetes or cancer. I'm not 100% sure that I agree with that. I'm thinking that the end stage for far too many people is suicide, but I'd like the comparison to be clear.

Medical Assistance in Dying committee  Yes, I am just trying to compare someone with a mental disability who is saying, “I'm at the end, I'm not waiting for the miracle”, which a cancer patient might do as well.

Medical Assistance in Dying committee  Do we have time for a quick comment from Mr. Rahim?

Medical Assistance in Dying committee  Thank you.

Medical Assistance in Dying committee  Do you mean something specific to the indigenous community?

Medical Assistance in Dying committee  Thank you. So this is—

Medical Assistance in Dying committee  Thank you very much. On my first question, I think I'll go to Dr. Wieman. We've had, I would say, conflicting testimony over the months, perhaps even years, on this issue, with some parts of the indigenous community thinking that medical assistance in dying is an attempt at genocide.

Medical Assistance in Dying committee  When did they tell you no? Was it that day, later, a week later, a month later? When did they say, “No, we don't think you're eligible.”

Medical Assistance in Dying committee  Okay, so then what was the time between your first request, which was unsuccessful, and your second request for MAID, which was successful? It's sort of sitting on the books for you to trigger at some point. Is that how you see it?

Medical Assistance in Dying committee  What was the time between—