Declaration of Emergency committee  No, I'm asking you; I'm not assuming it either, actually. Do you believe that that had an impact on solidifying the command and allowing the RCMP and OPP to gain greater access to the command structure?

Declaration of Emergency committee  Yes, please do, if you don't mind. Thank you.

Declaration of Emergency committee  Thank you very much for that, Commissioner. Deputy Duheme, I have one last question. Have you ever used or been involved in the use of aid to civil power?

Declaration of Emergency committee  Had you had any discussions about the need for it in relation to the occupation in downtown Ottawa?

Declaration of Emergency committee  From your perspective, there wasn't a need to use aid to civil power, which would have given you more tools.

Declaration of Emergency committee  Thank you very much, deputy commissioner. I appreciate your answers. I'm finished, Madam Chair.

Declaration of Emergency committee  Thank you very much, Senator Harder. Deputy Commissioner Duheme, in relation to Wellington Street specifically, we heard a lot about funding that was frozen, which was being used to sponsor or at least support a criminal activity. Is that correct?

Declaration of Emergency committee  Could no other tool have been used, like civil forfeiture under the province, to secure those funds in an attempt to actually forfeit them to the Crown? Could that not have been used prior to the Emergencies Act? If so, was that considered by the team that was working on developing a strategy?

Declaration of Emergency committee  Was using provincial civil forfeiture never discussed at any of the meetings you were in?

Declaration of Emergency committee  Thank you very much for that. I appreciate it. On February 12, were you confident that the police were at a point where their plan would be successful in removing, clearing and making whatever arrests necessary of the people who were situated on Wellington Street and beyond?

Declaration of Emergency committee  The member reports to you, though. I'm sorry to interrupt. The RCMP officer, the acting chief superintendent, reports to the RCMP.

Declaration of Emergency committee  He oversees the hundreds of employees on the parliamentary precinct, right?

Declaration of Emergency committee  Again, in understanding that the operational command for PPS reports to the RCMP, did you consider it high risk for parliamentarians and their staff? It was wide open from the protest or the occupation, right onto the Hill. Did you consider it high risk?

Declaration of Emergency committee  No, I understand that, but at no point in time were there any actions taken to block off Parliament Hill from the protesters, or no warnings were given to parliamentarians not to engage with anybody in that area. Nobody was told not to enter that area. It wasn't considered such a high risk that we would have actually done anything to stop access.

Declaration of Emergency committee  Apparently the Usher of the Black Rod didn't care as much about us, because he didn't give us any warnings, but I appreciate that. The next question I have, deputy, if I may, is in relation to all of the assets that were frozen by banks or financial institutions. Have any charges been laid in relation to the utility of the money that was frozen?